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crackerjack
02-14-2003, 11:36 AM
This is an excerpt from a book called Our Dreaming Mind...

Carol noted a dream in which a powerful positve animus appeared was frequently followed by one containing a negative animus figure that threatened the gains the dreamer felt she was making. This process of the "return to the opposite" was called enantiodromia by Jung, a term from Heraclitus(notice the H), the ancient Greek philosepher. It refers to a sort of push-pull, self-regulating quality which occurs whenever change takes place in the journey through the unconscious.


H is a song about Maynard struggling with himself. The talk about the angel and the devil still work, cuz you have this positive anima and the negative one- pushing and pulling.
Each piece of the personality is fighting for it's own existence.

eknick
02-15-2003, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by crackerjack
H is a song about Maynard struggling with himself. The talk about the angel and the devil still work, cuz you have this positive anima and the negative one- pushing and pulling.
Each piece of the personality is fighting for it's own existence.

then he noticed the devil and the angel are just friends giving you advice, they dont fight for existence in fact they complement each other. like when u r making a decision you consider both the consequences and the benefits, which allows u to make the best decisions.

crackerjack
02-16-2003, 10:03 AM
And we know what the anima is. Seems like the album has a lot to do with that. If you can get your hands on this book, or just some shit from Jung on dreams, it would help you understand the whole album better.

sircorn
04-04-2003, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by eknick
then he noticed the devil and the angel are just friends giving you advice, they dont fight for existence in fact they complement each other. like when u r making a decision you consider both the consequences and the benefits, which allows u to make the best decisions.

I think its more to do with they give input and you listen to their advice. Their advice may be what's best in their minds, but not the best for you. You have to choose the advice that suits you best. You have to try and avoid the wrong way, but it's extremly hard to see the truth(well whats true to you). you have to make a decision and accept what goes with that. Your friends are angels in devils, but in their minds they are both right.

How does this relate outside of simple poetry? Well look at the wars today for example. Both sides fight each other beleiving themselves to be right and the other wrong, when in actuallity they are both justified. "You" have to decide which side is right and wrong by your own judgement and background.