Info on the new album..

[Isac Khrondor]

Some guy from Tooltabs.net who was in L.A with Paul D'Amour said this..

is being produced by alex newport www.alexnewport.com ...at least if i remember from my conversation.

no final tracks have been recorded yet. danny knows all his parts, but hasnt recorded any of them(according to my source he wont take more than a week to do so). all of this stalling is apparently adam jone's fault, why exactly i dont know.

the album is going to be uber self-indulgent and have like 6 12 minute songs. sounds like another band.....but probably a shit ton better. it is supposed to be just sickeningly heavy.

He was with a load of other guitarist auditioning for Feersum Ennjin.

Alex Newport.

Adam, slowing the whole thing down.

6 - 12 Minute songs.

Sickeningly Heavy.

[tomXwithXweather]

At

Danny

stalling

is apparently

Adam Jones's

shit.

It means something.

[Naga Royal Guard]

bullshit

[mike tyson]

This seems a lot more credible compared to the other shit I've seen on here. Adam, Maynard, whoever, I don't care who's slowing it down. Alex Newport? Sickeningly heavy sounds bonerific.

[shai]

that makes me hard

[Orph8998]

adam fucking sucks

and i must say, the tool fans from down-under are our best ones

[Twelve]

Self-indulgent, yet sickeningly heavy, yet complicated. I like it. Just so long as it's not political.

[Orph8998]

Self-indulgent, yet sickeningly heavy, yet complicated. I like it. Just so long as it's not political.

amen

[Fap]

So, no filler tracks?

Also- unless the person meant 5 twelve minute tracks and an 18 minute track, or if it's a going to be a double CD, then there won't be enough room for the 18 minute song too. I'm fairly sure cds can only hold 78 minutes of recorded material, hence the length of Lateralus.

[Naga Royal Guard]

maybe they just wont finish the last song

[Misanthrope]

I don't think Tool can do sickeningly heavy.

[Kelly]

slowing the whole thing down.

yay

[fire engine]

Alex Newport? He produced Tremulant EP from The Mars Volta. That might be a...different approach, if true. I'll have to go back and listen to that EP to see what it is like. I must admit that I never paid attention.

[dfbovey]

I'd definately welcome a heavier release from Tool.

[UtUmNo1]

CDs don't weigh more than a couple of grams.

[The Let Down]

Self-indulgent, yet sickeningly heavy, yet complicated. I like it. Just so long as it's not political.

I wouldn't think it would be political and I hope it isn't as well. He covered that with APC & eMotive.

[mike tyson]

I don't much like the Tremulant EP from TMV. Cut That City and Eunuch Provocateur aren't my style, but I think Concertina is the fucking shiznittlebam. As for how this Alex dude produces, I don't much know how I can gauge his skills through this CD, so we'll see how the piece comes out with a different producer. That is if this person isn't bullshitting.

[Andy DV]

i hope its so self-indulgent that they alienate all their fans but me. i dont like going to concerts with crowds.

[placidium]

I wouldn't think it would be political and I hope it isn't as well. He covered that with APC & eMotive.


But we all know that when Maynard starts talking about something, he doesn't shut the fuck up -- not even when he has no fucking clue what he's saying. What a punkass bitch.

[Kelly]

But we all know that when Maynard starts talking about something, he doesn't shut the fuck up -- not even when he has no fucking clue what he's saying. What a punkass bitch.

yea get em

fuck em up

[cornerstone]

Some guy from Tooltabs.net who was in L.A with Paul D'Amour said this..



He was with a load of other guitarist auditioning for Feersum Ennjin.

Alex Newport.

Adam, slowing the whole thing down.

6 - 12 Minute songs.

Sickeningly Heavy.

This can only mean one thing:

More crappy fans.

[GregoryWohlwend]

i hope its so self-indulgent that they alienate all their fans but me. i dont like going to concerts with crowds.
hahaha

[waffel]

CDs don't weigh more than a couple of grams.

Hahhhahaha

[EyesOfAFallenAngel]

I don't think Tool can do sickeningly heavy.
Nothing compares to Merzbow.

[SmallWangedMan]

I wasn't hoping for a heavier release, but I imagine I'll still like it very much.

[Isac Khrondor]

This can only mean one thing:

More crappy fans.

Shit, I didn't think of that.

[SmallWangedMan]

Well, that depends on the style. If it's more of a brooding, slower, death-metal heavy, the crossover appeal probably won't be as high. If it's more aggressive and visceral they might get some heavy radio play...and then these forums will be noob-bombed.

[LoKi]

...then these forums will be noob-bombed.


yeah!




















wait.

[TheInsideSource]

Wow, this news is great, if it is indeed true... "Self-indulgent" and "sickeningly heavy", oh man I just came... I need aggressive Tool, their previous albums are all great, but I need something from Tool to just aurally beat the shit of me... I can't wait to see how Maynard's vocals relate to this new heavy Tool...

WHOOO HOO!!!

P.S. Nice to see Paul D'Amour is still in contact with the band.

[blue/shimmering]

Nothing compares to Merzbow.

w0rd.

[In_Search]

I don't think Tool can do sickeningly heavy.I hope they don't.

[shai]

not an aggressive sickeningly heave, but a defensive sickeningly heave, brooding and shit, that would be awesome.

[TheHolyGift]

Whatever it is, people will hate it. Whenever a band puts out their 4th full-length album, people have to hate it. It's the rule

[ATARI]

not an aggressive sickeningly heave, but a defensive sickeningly heave, brooding and shit, that would be awesome.

heave ho

[Twelve]

By sickeningly heavy, do you mean something in relation to, say, Flood (first few minutes of it), only even sicker, heavier, and more intense? Something that just beats the hell out of your brain? Something that you could use to scare children away? That would be totally sweet.

[mike tyson]

I'm hoping they mean heavy like Triad.

[MasterOfKtulu109]

I'm hoping they mean heavy like Triad.


i think it will have a Triad-like sound.

People have observed in the past that the last track on each album seems to show the direction of the next album. Flood to Aenima, Third Eye to Lateralus (all that lateral thinking stuff), so Triad to whatever this one is.

I think it will be heavier, musically, but it won't be one of those talentless bands that screams and growls the vocals instead of actually singing them.

And as far as the producer goes, I don't think Tool would pick someone they did not like or could not do a great job.

[vic1torious]

i smell feces

[InertUniformity]

i really dont think we can expect an 18 minute song to be on this record...its just a long jam that they started with....its most likely that the song will either be shortened considerably or cut in half or thirds like d/r/t...

[c4nnon_fodder]

I was reading up on the producer and I like a lot of whom he has worked with, I saw Melvins, TMV and The Locust. This guy seems like he would be good for Tool if they wanted a "heavier" album. Well, it would be nice if this was a legit piece of news. Time will tell.

[Wretched]

A little heavier they say. Didn't Dream Theater do that, and didn't Metallica do that? Didn't those both turn out shitty? Weren't both those bands a little older when they tried this?

Fuck.

[mike tyson]

Uhh Metallica was more heavy before they did Load or any of their newer shit. Also, Dream Theater sucks.

[Wretched]

Uhh Metallica was more heavy before they did Load or any of their newer shit. Also, Dream Theater sucks.

I'm talking about St. Anger, they were more or less trying to get more powerful in St. Anger. To proove they still had "it".

I enjoy Dream Theater, but I don't really care if you don't.

[triad636]

each one of us on tdn right now would be able to adopt a noob if the new album is as heavy as it is being rumored to be.. we can whip those noobs into shape...but it wouldnt be too fun down with them.. fuckem.. and the new album better not be too heavy

[Orph8998]

each one of us on tdn right now would be able to adopt a noob if the new album is as heavy as it is being rumored to be.. we can whip those noobs into shape...but it wouldnt be too fun down with them.. fuckem.. and the new album better not be too heavy

shut up n00b

[Orph8998]

shut up n00b

shut up n00b

[mike tyson]

Happy Birthday Orph.

[Orph8998]

Happy Birthday Orph.

awwww thanks man
you make me fall in love with tool all over again

[pornstarchampion]

i think it will have a Triad-like sound.

People have observed in the past that the last track on each album seems to show the direction of the next album. Flood to Aenima, Third Eye to Lateralus (all that lateral thinking stuff), so Triad to whatever this one is.

I think it will be heavier, musically, but it won't be one of those talentless bands that screams and growls the vocals instead of actually singing them.

And as far as the producer goes, I don't think Tool would pick someone they did not like or could not do a great job.

I believe using that logic, this next album should sound like Fiaap de Oiad.

[Orph8998]

I believe using that logic, this next album should sound like Fiaap de Oiad.

i was waiting for someone to say that

[pornstarchampion]

i was waiting for someone to say that
What, I would love an album based totally on weird sounds and sound clips from radio shows.

[mike tyson]

I believe using that logic, this next album should sound like Fiaap de Oiad.

His logic was probably last "real" song, (Don't start the whole huge argument about what a song is, you know what I mean.) because Disgustipated is technically the last song on Undertow but he noted Flood.

[triad636]

shut up n00b
shut up fool ive been here longer than you..just because i dont feel like making short..irrellevent posts doesnt make me smaller than u!! ur the noob in my eyes

[MasterOfKtulu109]

His logic was probably last "real" song, (Don't start the whole huge argument about what a song is, you know what I mean.) because Disgustipated is technically the last song on Undertow but he noted Flood.


yeah, its just people trying to be argumentative or a weak attempt at trying to be funny.

[herarety]

I think it will be heavier, musically, but it won't be one of those talentless bands that screams and growls the vocals instead of actually singing them..
Cause we all know screaming and growling comes easily to anyone who picks up a mic.

[krumz]

if their heavy songs are of the same standards and quality as "The grudge"......the album will definitely rock.

[Ktuluvic]

it's been funny to watch how paranoid everyone is about the new tool release. I mean, it's understandable, with how often a band jumps the shark and puts out a shitty ablum. But correct me if I'm wrong, tool is nothing like metallica, dream theatre, or any other band I've ever come across. Metallica was about being a rock star, getting drunk, and rocking out. DT's about incredible skills as a musician (whether or not this makes good music is a different topic). But tool, well, they seem to have a purpose, they're trying to do soemthing with their music. It's not about the image, the money, the groupies, or any of that shit. It's about the music and the connection with those who listen, and a lot more. They're the only band I feel I can trust to put out a good release.

[LoKi]

shut up fool ive been here longer than you..just because i dont feel like making short..irrellevent posts doesnt make me smaller than u!! ur the noob in my eyes

shut up noob.

[waffel]

I'm thinking its like the last minute of ticks and leeches kinda heavy.

[Ktuluvic]

I invision some kind of mix between Lateralus (the heavier parts) and Undertow, which puts me in need of a napkin.

[Orph8998]

shut up fool ive been here longer than you..just because i dont feel like making short..irrellevent posts doesnt make me smaller than u!! ur the noob in my eyes

oh, im sorry, do you forgive me?

[Orph8998]

it's been funny to watch how paranoid everyone is about the new tool release. I mean, it's understandable, with how often a band jumps the shark and puts out a shitty ablum. But correct me if I'm wrong, tool is nothing like metallica, dream theatre, or any other band I've ever come across. Metallica was about being a rock star, getting drunk, and rocking out. DT's about incredible skills as a musician (whether or not this makes good music is a different topic). But tool, well, they seem to have a purpose, they're trying to do soemthing with their music. It's not about the image, the money, the groupies, or any of that shit. It's about the music and the connection with those who listen, and a lot more. They're the only band I feel I can trust to put out a good release.

but there is a good chance tool will get all "artsy" to the point that it is bad sounding....

[triad636]

sure on one condition.. we become a team of noob bashers and bash on noobs all around tdn

[Orph8998]

sure on one condition.. we become a team of noob bashers and bash on noobs all around tdn

ok, i'm all for bashing others to asure i dont get bashed upon myself
those n00bs are toast

[triad636]

hell yea they are...me and you will be noob killers lol

[SaTaNs_LiTtLe_HeLpEr]

I'm hoping they mean heavy like Triad.
Word.

Watch the infamous 18 minute-long song be a filler.

[Madklikor]

all of this stalling is apparently adam jone's fault, why exactly i dont know.


Maybe because he was working on the DVD and they want the DVD to be out before the album??

[Tyro]

Whatever it is, people will hate it. Whenever a band puts out their 4th full-length album, people have to hate it. It's the rule

I liked ...And Justice For All. I believe people starting hating Metallica around Load, so mwah, your idea is flawed.

[mattmav45]

hell yea they are...me and you will be noob killers lol



Shut up you noob bastard.

[triad636]

Shut up you noob bastard.

stfu you make the worst posts ever u danm noob how the shit can you call anyone a noob with 13 posts and no more than 2 moths here... ur too cocky go and die...asshole noob

[PsychoX_02568]

Tool hates us.











































what's a newbian?

[triad636]

dont know?? does anyone??

[Isac Khrondor]

A habitant of the planet Newbia.

[mattmav45]

stfu you make the worst posts ever u danm noob how the shit can you call anyone a noob with 13 posts and no more than 2 moths here... ur too cocky go and die...asshole noob


Once again I will say it, shut up you noob bastard. Everything that you post just shouts out NEWBIE!

[tiphera]

Well... Do you think there's going to be an 'anger' song on this album too?

Because, there was one single song on all of Tool's albums that was sort of directed towards a person (or thing) showing their hatred/anger about that person. No matter how irrelevant that song was.

Jerk off in opiate, swamp in undertow, hooker with a penis in Ænima, and ticks and leeches in Lateralus (which is the one that I think was the most irrelevant to rest of the album).

[idiotboy]

Because, there was one single song on all of Tool's albums that was sort of directed towards a person (or thing) showing their hatred/anger about that person. No matter how irrelevant that song was.

Jerk off in opiate, swamp in undertow, hooker with a penis in Ænima, and ticks and leeches in Lateralus (which is the one that I think was the most irrelevant to rest of the album).

very interesting! i noticed the same thing too.

personally, i kinda thought it was "hush" on opiate (just in context with the video), and never fully pinned down one hate song on undertow. but swamp song and jerk-off make perfect sense.

[Mr Omnipotent]

hell yea they are...me and you will be noob killers lol

Your lame.

[Isac Khrondor]

Im gonna go have a shower then go into school for my English Media Studies exam soon.

I just found out the new album is a greatest hits cd, so spread the word guys.

[GelatiCruiser]

I hope it sounds like that show Maynard was on last week....that was riveting.

[It's Just a Ride]

Sickeningly Heavy.

I recall quite some time ago word going around stating that allegedly Meshuggah "influences" would be quite apparant on the new album.

That would pair up with the "sickeningly heavy" comment nicely well indeeeeeed.

[Twelve]

whatever it sounds like, it will be hard as shit to digest. and we all know how hard it is to digest shit. right?

[Wave.Existance.Tears]

Yes.

Well, now that I think of it...Undertow was mapped out and some of it made during the Opiate times, but its true that the former is definately in the Opiate selftitled style rather than short anger pieces.
Also, with the logic that's its literally the last piece that makes the difference, then wouldn't all of Aenima sound like Disgustipated? Which it doesn't, of course...
Its hard to consider it a hidden track when its not truely "hidden", so don't gimme that logic. It says track 10: Disgustiped on the back of the Undertow package, therefore NOT hidden. Faaip de Oiad isn't a hidden track either, yet another Disgustipated-esque last song layout.
I see that its true that Third Eye influenced Lateralus, but honestly, a whole cd of bullshit on "'Teleincision'"? Do you WANT that? (wishful thinking, I think not)

I think it would be interesting if they mixed the heavy of Undertow and the spirituality/depth/layering/sound/style of Lateralus, with something new all its own.
I'd be a happy camper, no?

I just they don't throw in something from the Opiate days that makes a song fitting farfetched...Ticks and Leeches on Lat. could have fit perfectly with Undertow; too long for Opiate itself.

[The Village Too]

This can only mean one thing:

More crappy fans.

oh shut the fuck up. you're a crappy fan. everyone is a crappy fan. except for me. why? because i am the typical tool fan.

[MasterOfKtulu109]

Also, with the logic that's its literally the last piece that makes the difference, then wouldn't all of Aenima sound like Disgustipated? Which it doesn't, of course...
Its hard to consider it a hidden track when its not truely "hidden", so don't gimme that logic. It says track 10: Disgustiped on the back of the Undertow package, therefore NOT hidden. Faaip de Oiad isn't a hidden track either, yet another Disgustipated-esque last song layout.
I see that its true that Third Eye influenced Lateralus, but honestly, a whole cd of bullshit on "'Teleincision'"? Do you WANT that? (wishful thinking, I think not)



Maybe I'm weird but I consider the last track on an album to be the last one with instuments, vocals, rhythm (Flood, Third Eye, Triad).....pretty much everything that makes a song a song. I don't think many people consider Disgustipated and Faaip de Oiad to be the last songs on the album, and thinking that those 2 would be the sound for next album is just stupid. So if you use your brain and realize that the last song on each album seems to show the direction of the next album, Triad could be the sickeningly heavy that is being hinted at.

[GregoryWohlwend]

it's "cthulhu"

[pacifister]

I heard a rumor that they had a lot of shit finished but Maynard scrapped the entire thing so they had to start over. A friend of mine heard this from a customer while he was working so this could be completely false and it doesn't entirely fit with the "all of this stalling is apparently adam jone's fault" of this rumor report.

Anyone else hear anything like this?

[Isac Khrondor]

Not really, I only hear stuff from the internet.

[Pineal]

Yeah I'm pretty sure that all the members of Tool were killed by rabid donkeys four months ago on their annual orange picking vacation.

Their record company subsequently decided to replace them with cheap Mexican look-alikes so that they could add their own music to the almost finished album that Tool left behind. Upon its release the Mexican Tool look-alikes will announce that they are disbanding to pursue various careers in porn, bartending and professional wrestling and no one will be the wiser.

Also the album will be called El Teleincision and will be a mix of heavy brooding prog metal and light hearted traditional Mexican ballads, with a few tequila inspired sing alongs thrown in for good measure.

[o00mega00]

Yeah I'm pretty sure that all the members of Tool were killed by rabid donkeys four months ago on their annual orange picking vacation.

Their record company subsequently decided to replace them with cheap Mexican look-alikes so that they could add their own music to the almost finished album that Tool left behind. Upon its release the Mexican Tool look-alikes will announce that they are disbanding to pursue various careers in porn, bartending and professional wrestling and no one will be the wiser.

Also the album will be called El Teleincision and will be a mix of heavy brooding prog metal and light hearted traditional Mexican ballads, with a few tequila inspired sing alongs thrown in for good measure.


......Sweet......

[idiotboy]

Their record company subsequently decided to replace them with cheap Mexican look-alikes...

like stevan spielbergo?

[Wave.Existance.Tears]

Nah, the thing about the true last tracks, I was just trying to make a point.
Yes, I know that the ppl that are like OMFG! Its gonna be like Fraip de Oiad are
a) joking
b) dumb
or c) both
But its still very annoying...lol.
I think that as an influence, it would be D/R/T as a whole, considering Triad by itself does not have lyrics. If it was just a musical album that axed poor lil Maynard, then it would just be Triad. I like Maynard though, don't you guys? Do you really wanna see the man go? Do you? :(

[The Dissonance]

I just want this album to hurry up and get recorded, I've been waiting for this for so long. I'm wicked pumped.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I've heard lots of talk about that 18 minute song with the rumored initials of LK. Other than that, I've not heard much on the new album.

Either way, 18 minute songs are awesome.

Blair, that bastard. If he's been making all of this stuff up, I may have to hunt him down, kill him, and steal his identity so that I can make up rumors about Tool.

[fire engine]

The original post said that the man who posted this was auditioning with Paul for the guitar spot. Well, Feersum Ennjin got a bassist, with Paul on guitar. If he lied about it being guitar, he could've lied about the whole thing.

[Orph8998]

your full of poppy cock

[SaTaNs_LiTtLe_HeLpEr]

Maybe I'm weird but I consider the last track on an album to be the last one with instuments, vocals, rhythm (Flood, Third Eye, Triad).....pretty much everything that makes a song a song. I don't think many people consider Disgustipated and Faaip de Oiad to be the last songs on the album, and thinking that those 2 would be the sound for next album is just stupid. So if you use your brain and realize that the last song on each album seems to show the direction of the next album, Triad could be the sickeningly heavy that is being hinted at.
Call me deaf, but where the hell is the vocals on Triad? Speaking of which, I'm glad MJK didn't sing to Triad or am I just deaf?

[fire engine]

Call me deaf, but where the hell is the vocals on Triad? Speaking of which, I'm glad MJK didn't sing to Triad or am I just deaf?

There are some wierdo screams and shit in it, no lyrics.b

[Bill_Hix]

I heard a rumor that they had a lot of shit finished but Maynard scrapped the entire thing so they had to start over. A friend of mine heard this from a customer while he was working so this could be completely false and it doesn't entirely fit with the "all of this stalling is apparently adam jone's fault" of this rumor report.

Anyone else hear anything like this?

I don't think that even if maynard wanted to scrap the whole project, that the rest of the band would let him.

[Spongebob]

fire engine, im pretty sure the vocals on triad, the wierd screamy droany sounds, are made by synthesiers and shit, its just playback, its not maynard singing it, he definetly doesnt make the noise through a microphone when they play it live.

[triad636]

maybe the lyrics but not the whole album..

[MasterOfKtulu109]

Call me deaf, but where the hell is the vocals on Triad? Speaking of which, I'm glad MJK didn't sing to Triad or am I just deaf?


wow. you're a quick one.


anyone else hear that tool is in the studio making another album?

[ATObassist]

Whatever it is, people will hate it. Whenever a band puts out their 4th full-length album, people have to hate it. It's the rule


yeah, just like the led zeppelin "Zoso" album....wait.....

if it is heavier, i doubt it will be an anger of maynard saying "im sick of this and i hate that" sort of thing, it will probably be more emotional deep anger since his mom died fairly recently giving him plenty of material to write about. i may be completely off, but its just an idea to throw out there.

[Lackymacky]

ive been pretty curious what hed write about. hes written about so much. and i doubt hes going to write political. considering the wide range of topics and lateralus and the previous albums how hes sung about holding a grudge, communication, being patient, being numb, child abuse, religion, opening up, evolving, E E T T C C . so wwhats next for tool?

who knows?



i do

[idiotboy]

I'm wicked pumped.

please get back in your time machine and go back to 1986.

or canada.

[Odibilëph]

anyone else hear that tool is in the studio making another album?
OMG I hope it's good! I'm wicked pumped.

[martyr]

you know wot? it took 96 posts for someone too realise that this whole thread could be a horrible lie and that means i could have spent the last 30 mins obsessing about something other than tool. something like god

[LetTheRabbitsWearGlasses]

95 posts, to be exact. And anything in this section could be a lie. Actually, anything in this section probably is a lie.

[SaTaNs_LiTtLe_HeLpEr]

There are some wierdo screams and shit in it, no lyrics.b
Actually I don't think those are screams, but that's just my opinion.

wow. you're a quick one.

Funny you should mention that...