Has anyone ever noticed....?

[Systolic]

In this song, during the verses, Maynard splits his syllables up to go by the Fibonacci sequence...

I mean theres the obvious Fibonacci sequence going on with the time signatures, but check out how he sings..
Black - 1
Then - 1
White are - 2
All I see - 3
In my infancy - 5
Red and yellow then came to be - 8
Reaching out to me, lets me see - 8
As below so above and beyond I imagine - 13
Drawn beyond the lines of reason - 8
Push the envelope - 5
Watch it bend - 3

Just a thought... I'm sure someone's noticed it before. So no flames if I missed it please.

[WearingVans501s]

holy fuck.....

[Carny_Handles]

holy fuck.....


lol

[paraflux]

Its been discussed a number of times. Yes, it is very cool.

[UtUmNo1]

Pardon my ignorance, but would anyone care to explain the Fibonacci sequence?

[UtUmNo1]

Thanks mstajduh.

I think I recall it from some time long ago.

Who picks this stuff up, by the way?

[13 Leaf-Clover]

Ok, so what the hell does a bunch of numbers have to do with the meaning of the song?

http://www.textism.com/bucket/fib.html

Holy shit. Spiral out.

[digitaldragon03]

hahaha, its funny whenever someone thinks theyve discovered something new, but its something that everyone has known for years.

[13 Leaf-Clover]

New is a vague term. What is new to someone, may be old to another, or vice versa.

[paraflux]

hahaha, its funny whenever someone thinks theyve discovered something new, but its something that everyone has known for years.

This should not stop people from learning new things. I actually think it is much cooler to come to a conclusion on your own and find out later that others have drawn the same conclusions, than to simply learn a concept from another person up front.

[SmallWangedMan]

Yeah I remember that, neato stuff.

[Systolic]

Welll I've known about that for quite a while, just never remembered to say anything on here about it... It was cool when I discovered it though.. How many other instances of the Fibonacci Sequence are there in the song? I know that there is the 987, the 15th number in the sequence... but what else.. There was one more egregious allusion to the sequence, but I can't remember what it is...

[Systolic]

Ok, so what the hell does a bunch of numbers have to do with the meaning of the song?

http://www.textism.com/bucket/fib.html

Holy shit. Spiral out.


Dude thats cool as hell.... I wonder if any artwork has been inspired by this... Anyone know of anything?

[5th Eye]

"Get yer ass out of my beer!" was definitely the best part of that page...

[Kelly]

Unlike the intruments timing, the word sequence is not a true fibonnaci sequence.

[5th Eye]

True, but where are the instruments actually making a Fibonacci sequence in the song? No one has ever explained that.

[5th Eye]

Which goes 9-8-7-9-8-7-9-8-7. 987 is a Fibonacci number I suppose...

[Systolic]

Which goes 9-8-7-9-8-7-9-8-7. 987 is a Fibonacci number I suppose...


987 is the 15th number in the series...
But there was something else.. the syllables, the sigs, and one more thing but I cant remember what...

[thirdey3open]

Danny Carey uses the sequence when playing percussion (drums) in this song. When reading/writing music you use a time signature, the most common time signature in rock is the 4/4 time signature, which means 4 beats per bar, 4 bars a measure. Since there are 4 beats to 1 bar, each beat (or note) would be considered a quarter note which I'm sure everyone has heard of.

ex.. (everyone has seen someone count this out before - even insecure cheerleaders use time signatures)

1.2.3.4. - 1.2.3.4. - 1.2.3.4. - 1.2.3.4.



Now, in the song Lateralus, Danny uses the time signatures of
9/8, 8/8, and 7/8. You can't really listen to the song and hear these very well because you can always write them differently (8/8 can be written as two 4/4 measures).

Hope this helps....

[SmallWangedMan]

In the 987 part, Adam plays a riff that's 9 beats long. After the 9th beat, he repeats the same riff but cuts it one beat short. Then he does it again and cuts it one more beat short. That's the best way to think about it when you hear that part.

[Darkest Night]

Dude thats cool as hell.... I wonder if any artwork has been inspired by this... Anyone know of anything?


yes all of the ancient artwork was built around the golden rectangle and the propagating spiral. the statues, paintings, everything. the mona lisa was one of the best examples. they did it this way because these patterns were representative of the mathematical law of beauty.
...i learned it from donald duck in mathmagic land

[sirdimos]

yes all of the ancient artwork was built around the golden rectangle and the propagating spiral. the statues, paintings, everything. the mona lisa was one of the best examples. they did it this way because these patterns were representative of the mathematical law of beauty.
...i learned it from donald duck in mathmagic land

that is cool stuff, I personally love seeing the art connected with this music (i.e. Goya's 'Saturn Eating His Children' from The Grudge). Could anybody point me towards specific paintings based on the fibonacci/golden rectangle? I tried searching for something connecting the Mona Lisa with the fibonacci and got tons of references to the Da Vinci Code... but I still can't see how the fibonacci is connected with the Mona Lisa :(

[LP|Stang]

Yeah.

[SmallWangedMan]

Yeah.

Nice contribution, fucko!

[5th Eye]

I heard/read that the drumming forms a Fibonacci sequence in the pattern he plays, and I don't mean the 9-8-7 time signature changes; I was thinking more along the lines of 1 hi-hat; 1 hi-hat; 2 hi-hats; 3 snare hits; 5 tom hits...etc...