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UnholyBelligerence
03-18-2005, 05:40 AM
You may think this is stupid but if not,

What do you want to see in terms of number of songs and length of songs, and fillers.

champion
03-18-2005, 06:15 AM
i have no idea. i can't answer that. i just want to see a release.

UnholyBelligerence
03-18-2005, 07:03 AM
I want to see less fillers, but simply keep the flow by carrying over tracks, like QOTSA's Songs For The Deaf, with the interludes that run into the next song.

Faaip De Oiad
03-18-2005, 07:07 AM
I actually like the fillers...

I hope they dont lose them

champion
03-18-2005, 07:09 AM
don't you wanna see them do something new and excellent instead, no matter what it is? chances are, what they have thought of, we have not.

Glass Onion
03-18-2005, 07:20 AM
What are these 'fillers' you speak of? songs like (-)ions, eon blue apocalypse, mantra etc flesh the album out, i enjoy them just as much as the regular tracks.

5th Eye
03-18-2005, 09:49 AM
"Fillers" are good, we want fillers. But only so long as they're short, few, and don't detract too much from the overall quality. I'd like to see—on any album, really—songs to be long (10-12+ minutes) and epic, or shorter (5-8 minutes) and more to the point.

But who am I to tell them that? They do whatever the hell they want.

Odibilëph
03-18-2005, 12:48 PM
I like the interludes.
I say keep 'em. Gives it character.

Cry_Ouroboros
03-18-2005, 01:06 PM
A one-track rock opera.

MasterOfKtulu109
03-18-2005, 01:17 PM
I'm thinking their new one will be like all their other ones. 9-11 full length songs, from 5-15 minutes long.


The longer the songs the better, as long as they are not just being long for the sake of being long (which Tool has never done, but many other bands do).

Misanthrope
03-18-2005, 05:23 PM
I'd expect to see 57 songs between 4 seconds and 3 minutes in length.

el rancho ovulate
03-18-2005, 05:35 PM
20 minute song on track 1.. Then 40 minutes of silence scattered across tracks 2-69

So they can sell an EP for the price of an LP.

flipmojo
03-18-2005, 07:34 PM
I like the short songs. Songs like: Sober, Stinkfist, 46 & 2 and Schism aren't too long. They are range from 5 to 7 minutes. I really hope they have a few songs at that length. If they don't, which songs will be singles?

I appreciate the long songs. Songs like: The Grudge, Eulogy, Third Eye, Pushit and Reflection are pretty long songs. They range from 8 to 14 minutes long. These longer songs are like epic adventures. They are perfect for when you want to actually sit back and enjoy music.

The fillers are cool with me. They are like transisions. I say keep them.

The only thing I don't want to see is a song over 15 minutes, unless it is the very last song on the album. Even though Tool is like classical music, it is still ROCK music. A rock song oer 15 minutes might be tough to listen to on a regular basis.

Tyson
03-18-2005, 09:02 PM
I want the whole cd to be in the negative, as in you have to put on track one and reverse the whole album to get to the start.

consumer#417
03-18-2005, 09:03 PM
i like songs...

UnholyBelligerence
03-19-2005, 02:10 AM
I want the whole cd to be in the negative, as in you have to put on track one and reverse the whole album to get to the start.

Heh thats quite funny actually.

.TP
03-19-2005, 10:16 AM
Heh thats quite funny actually.

don´t feed the monster....

don´t.....

solomonarul
03-19-2005, 11:39 AM
i can bet you that the future album WILL HAVE filler songs...it is a MUST for a great Tool album.

wtf?

Tyson
03-19-2005, 02:06 PM
don´t feed the monster....

don´t.....

Tyson Vs. Godzilla or The moths of doom?

5th Eye
03-19-2005, 05:20 PM
A rock song oer 15 minutes might be tough to listen to on a regular basis.That's why I usually can't stand listening to Third Eye.

I want the whole cd to be in the negative, as in you have to put on track one and reverse the whole album to get to the start.No, that would be bad. BAD!!!! I don't think you could do that anyway. Not with the first track.

MasterOfKtulu109
03-20-2005, 10:01 PM
I like the short songs. Songs like: Sober, Stinkfist, 46 & 2 and Schism aren't too long. They are range from 5 to 7 minutes. I really hope they have a few songs at that length. If they don't, which songs will be singles?

I appreciate the long songs. Songs like: The Grudge, Eulogy, Third Eye, Pushit and Reflection are pretty long songs. They range from 8 to 14 minutes long. These longer songs are like epic adventures. They are perfect for when you want to actually sit back and enjoy music.

The fillers are cool with me. They are like transisions. I say keep them.

The only thing I don't want to see is a song over 15 minutes, unless it is the very last song on the album. Even though Tool is like classical music, it is still ROCK music. A rock song oer 15 minutes might be tough to listen to on a regular basis.


Well, you're screwed then because one of the new songs is 15 minutes long or so. But I'm looking forward to it since Danny said it is his favorite song to date.

JstCloseUrEyes
03-21-2005, 07:31 AM
I want to see less fillers, but simply keep the flow by carrying over tracks, like QOTSA's Songs For The Deaf, with the interludes that run into the next song.

I CAN'T STAND that album for that reason exactly. I think it ruins really good songs by having these annoying parts...ahh... The Mars Volta did something like this as well, it's beyond annoying. I don't mind, and even like, some of the Tool fillers...But hope they are separate tracks...

UnholyBelligerence
03-21-2005, 07:32 AM
I find the QOTSA interludes amusing, especially (I cant remember which song) where some radion dj goes 'this is about being millionairs, which these guys arent, he he he' or something like that.

Anjerasu
03-21-2005, 07:47 AM
No, that would be bad. BAD!!!! I don't think you could do that anyway. Not with the first track.

Pezcore by Less Than Jake had a hidden track before the first song that you had to rewind to get to... not that I own it... my dog does... dammit

5th Eye
03-21-2005, 09:36 AM
Hm. If you say so.

pornstarchampion
04-10-2005, 02:51 PM
I find the QOTSA interludes amusing, especially (I cant remember which song) where some radion dj goes 'this is about being millionairs, which these guys arent, he he he' or something like that.
I think thats the opening track where it has the guy tuning the radio dial, etc. Clone Radio hehe

imperfect
04-10-2005, 04:20 PM
im not really worried about what they are gonna do for the next one, iits a positive that its gonna be awesome. i like lateralus a lot they should totally do something new though, that would be exciting.

DeRais
04-11-2005, 01:05 PM
Yeah, the guys probably won't let us down...whatever they do will not even be close to what assume...If they do make a shitty record though....













I'll probably still buy it and pretend like I enjoy it.

Lackymacky
04-22-2005, 03:53 PM
I'd expect to see 57 songs between 4 seconds and 3 minutes in length.

lol

and master of k tulu..i couldnt agree with you more. case and point : Green Day: shadow song, i think its called, it kills so much time doing the same thing. it seems as if people think good songs are long, not the case. doesnt it just bug ya when ya know a band is trying to be long..and hard? it drives me up a wall ;)

eulogy508
04-22-2005, 06:09 PM
I just want some good fucking songs.

Lackymacky
04-23-2005, 06:17 AM
Go to the Tool FAQ........now read the part about "salt".

the part where it says a lie abot a "24 minute song" i thought that was true...disp/ref/triad ?? wasnt it originally one song. a litle off topic but what the hey

Perseensilmä
04-23-2005, 06:49 AM
No fillers. Absolutely NO FILLERS. Fillers give album a really cheap feeling. You know, a guy going "Und keine Eier!" on an album that is supposed to be the master piece of art rock. It just takes you out of the mood. Eon blue apocalypse-type of filler is the only kind I would like to hear on an tool-album,mainly because it is an intro to another song.


Faaip de oiad, what the fuck it is doing on lateralus! I think the album ends after Triad. I never listen to faaip de shit. It doesnt justify it´s presence on lateralus.

herarety
04-23-2005, 11:10 AM
No fillers. Absolutely NO FILLERS. Fillers give album a really cheap feeling. You know, a guy going "Und keine Eier!" on an album that is supposed to be the master piece of art rock. It just takes you out of the mood. Eon blue apocalypse-type of filler is the only kind I would like to hear on an tool-album,mainly because it is an intro to another song.


Faaip de oiad, what the fuck it is doing on lateralus! I think the album ends after Triad. I never listen to faaip de shit. It doesnt justify it´s presence on lateralus.
Die Eire Von Satan is one of their coolest 'fillers,' at least in my opinion.

Cheap feeling? Tool albums just wouldn't be the same without the 'fillers' (obviously)—each one adds something to each album. They allow Tool to put divides between certain songs or let them run together depending on what they're going for.

Isac Khrondor
04-23-2005, 11:26 AM
I have a feeling that if this album is going to be as progressive and intricate as Blair says so, it might be like the old prog albums with 5 or 6 long songs that all merge together..

But then again, Blair talks shit, Tool are hardly progressive in the same way Yes or Crimson were, so it'll probably be 9 or 10 songs with fillers inbetween to make the whole album 79 minutes long, then they can brag about how they don't conform to the usual time most bands use up on a cd.

Perseensilmä
04-23-2005, 02:55 PM
And you know, what, how much of the Laralus is silence between tracks 12 and 13?


What comes to fillers, I wouldnt put them on an album. They indeed give cheap feeling. I am not saying that the fillers suck as individual "compositions" but they shouldnt put them on an album. They would be fun to hear from toolband.com and laugh at them but they are indeed fillers and I dont think they give any special value to an album so they should not include them anymore.

5th Eye
04-24-2005, 02:50 PM
I like fillers, but sparingly. Ænima overdid it; Lateralus was right on, IMO. I hate the 1-second tracks on Undertow, though, they make the CD annoying to play in shuffle mode.

Convoy_X
04-26-2005, 03:46 AM
A one-track rock opera.
HELL YEAH!

smk4813
04-26-2005, 07:35 AM
Danny said that since last June, him and Justin had been jamming on and off with Adam, and they've already shelled out about 10-13 songs. Will all of them be on the album? Are any of them going to be conjoined? Were they all ditched? Have they written anymore? Is Maynard going to sing with a harmonica?


Who knows......but I can't wait.......I'm salival-ing at the mouth.

Lackymacky
04-26-2005, 12:54 PM
I was simply stating that when the boys or Blair (especially Blair) says anything, it's probably just to fuck with you.


yeah such as...the jesus thing..i couldnt beleive how many people fell for it..especially considering the date. so im sure alot of the stuff is just bs made to fuck with fans and others

polly wants a cracker
04-27-2005, 06:39 AM
No fillers I say.

5th Eye
04-27-2005, 08:27 AM
Perhaps one or two, but no more, I say.

DemiGodRaven
04-27-2005, 10:26 AM
I want a whoooole cd of filler

rest of the music industry does it.

cureformax
04-27-2005, 10:59 AM
More songs about how sexually active they are and about the large amounts of money they have.

Less songs about the highs and lows of human existence with an eye always towards the positive...boring! I want to hear about how much Maynard loves his new girlfriend.