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SadSummerSea
05-15-2010, 08:48 PM
Reviews only, please.

SETLIST

Third Eye
Jambi
(-) Ions
Stinkfist
Vicarious
Eon Blue Apocalypse
The Patient
Intolerance
Schism
Forty Six & 2
-intermission-
Lateralus (extended with drummer and bassist from JBGSM)
Ænema

cirkus
07-13-2010, 10:33 PM
Third Eye (extended)
Jambi
(-) Ions
Stinkfist (extended)
Vicarious
Eon Blue Apocalypse
The Patient
Intolerance (extended)
Schism (extended)
Forty Six & 2
-intermission-
Lateralus (extended with drummer and bassist from JBGSM)
Ænema


I talked to Jello during the Lateralus intermission. I asked him if they were gonna play a song together (Jello & Tool), and he said that they didn't have enough time to learn the song, so no. Oh well, still a great (albeit standard) show!

oneredflag
07-13-2010, 10:44 PM
Great show.
Visuals were off the hook.The whole camera thing is just strange.
Why dose tool care about some pics and YouTube foder so much.
Any way go see this round if you can
The sac show was better than SF.

blp
07-13-2010, 11:31 PM
So good, as always... Had super good seats, right at stage level on Adam's side, so we could see just about everything really well. Those new screens that are sorta see-through that lower down on top and behind Adam and Justin are so cool. They provide almost like a roof over the stage at some points... makes the lighting on the stage look sooo good.

I've been to lots and lots of shows over the years and I was so glad to see Third Eye and Intolerance again... Third Eye is such a great starter. I found that they were seemingly more passionate about those songs too. Everyone was really on tonight, seemed very energetic too.

Best live show going right now and it's not even close... worth every penny.

dpad13
07-14-2010, 12:04 AM
Kick ass show!! Maynard even waved to the fans before exiting the stage. The Patient and Intolerance made my night!!!

BTW: The posters for this show were pulled at the last minute. Apparently, Adam did not like them so they pulled them from all merch booths. Not before someone bought 30 of the unsigned ones, then sold them all in the parking lot for $30 each. I was standing in line and the merch ladies walkie talkie goes off and they were ok'd to sell the limited edition shirts but not the posters. I did buy a signed Vancouver and an unsigned Winnipeg poster though.

I really wanted the Arco poster because it's my birthday, damnit!!!!!!!!

Thanks Tool and Junior for the great show!!!

oneredflag
07-14-2010, 07:30 AM
Kick ass show!! Maynard even waved to the fans before exiting the stage. The Patient and Intolerance made my night!!!

BTW: The posters for this show were pulled at the last minute. Apparently, Adam did not like them so they pulled them from all merch booths. Not before someone bought 30 of the unsigned ones, then sold them all in the parking lot for $30 each. I was standing in line and the merch ladies walkie talkie goes off and they were ok'd to sell the limited edition shirts but not the posters. I did buy a signed Vancouver and an unsigned Winnipeg poster though.

I really wanted the Arco poster because it's my birthday, damnit!!!!!!!!

Thanks Tool and Junior for the great show!!!

Seems odd that they would pull the poster and not the shirt. I got a poster from some guy I assume was event staff. He had a stack outside in the parking lot 45 min befor the doors opened. He was selling them for $30 usd, same price as the SF poster at the merch booth.

sierrahiker68
07-14-2010, 07:36 AM
Great show, visuals where outstanding. The guys shook the building to its foundations.. The bass in a few points was unbelievable. Loved when the bassist and drummer from Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School of Medicine did that rhythm jam in Lateralus. Security a pain..

One little glitch, when they started their set with Third Eye the sound was crap. It took a few minutes for the sound engineer and the guys to get it dialed in. Not a big deal. I just thought this far into the tour or in sound check they would have it ironed out.

Team Coors Light
07-14-2010, 09:02 AM
Great show!

I was center stage, lower level (right in front of the VIP booths), and had two complaints:

First and foremost, I would like to recognize the lunch-box that bought the ticket for the seat right in front of me. At 6'6" and 400+lbs, you should really be cognizant of the fact that when you attend events such as concerts (even when sitting in rising seats), people behind you can't see anything...sitting or standing. I mean really, your head alone blocked my view of THE ENTIRE STAGE! Next time, be considerate and buy a ticket in the last row...

Second, the audio levels for MJK were waaay off for the first 4 songs. They fixed it after that and all was well.

Great energy from the band and stunning visuals. I might be the only one, or it might be due to the power or Echo Arena (If you've been, you'd know...), but Adam seemed a bit off at some points. Not many, just a few. Danny and Justin were, as always, incredible.

I really appreciated DC, AJ, and JC hanging out on stage for a bit after the set to acknowledge the fans. Always nice to see.

This was my 6th (or 7th) TOOL show and it was not the best...but definitely top 3.

Thanks TOOL!

Tiresias
07-14-2010, 09:07 AM
SETLIST:

Timothy Leary Intro
Third Eye (extended)
Maynardism: paraphrase: "Just leave everything going on out there for tonight and enjoy the moment)
Jambi
Ions
Stinkfist (extended)
Interlude (Lost Keyes-esque)
Vicarious (last chorus for the crowd)
Eon Blue Apocalypse
The Patient
Maynardism: (A joke about Marty seeing himself in the past, future, past, "whatever" in Back to the Future)
Intolerance (extended)
Schism (extended
46 & 2
Intermission (Space psychedelic)
Jam with what might be new material
Lateralus (extended with drummer and bassist from JBGSM: after which Maynard said: "You can't photoshop that shit.") (It was about 20-30 minutes long overall?)
Maynardism: "It's all going to be alright."
Aenima
Huge cheers for Danny, Justin and Adam after Maynard peaced, but he gave us a big wave before he left. Huge smiles on the guys faces.

ARCO sound is amazing. Loudest arena in the NBA=great venue for tool. By the end of Jambi it sounded like the sound guys had everything right for the building, and the sound only got better as the night wore on.

Highlights: Vicarious, Intolerance, Third Eye, LATERALUS. 46 and 2 before the intermission was the tightest I have ever heard it, and they have played it all 8 times I have seen them.

The jam during Lateralus was killer. Maynard was doing something with setlists? Paper cards? with question marks on them? goofing around during the breakdown, but then also listening attentively. Everyone got solos during the break down. Danny was putting on a clinic.

Junior has done something amazing with that light set-up, Well done.

Saw them with King Crimson in 2001, the shoe incident in Sacramento in 2002, the last show of the Lateralus tour in Long Beach, but this is the most dynamic I have ever seen the band. They are having fun with the material like never before. Thanks guys.
... and thank you Sacramento. You surpassed my expectations with a great positive vibe.

-Tiresias
08/11/01 Berkeley
11/02/01 Sacramento
11/03/01 Mt. View
07/15/02 Los Angeles
11/24/02 Long Beach
04/30/06 Coachella
10/07/06 Wantagh
07/13/10 Sacramento (woo hoo!!!)

bobbycat916
07-14-2010, 09:50 AM
never seen tool before, was so looking forward to seeing Maynard but he stayed in the dark the whole time. dissapointed

BeyondTheInfinite
07-14-2010, 09:58 AM
Last show of my round of Tool shows this time. It was great to see all of the additions they made and the growth they made from show to show. I noticed things they improved on each time and really enjoyed the intro to Lateralus by Adam. Before, in Seattle and SF, he just played his intro and abruptly stopped and then Danny started the drum intro. Last night was so badass how it faded out as the drum intro faded in. VERY WELL DONE GENTLEMEN! Heading back home to Portland. Until they tour again, see you all out there.

SO:KG:A!

insertnamehere
07-14-2010, 09:58 AM
Great show. In hindsight, it was a mistake coming here and looking at the previous setlists before going. When you know what's coming, it diminishes it just a little bit. Arco is great acoustically, but other than that it is the worst (large) venue for concerts in NorCal, as far as I am concerned. The parking lot policy (no consumption, and bike cops in enforcement mode) was weak. And the seating at floor level was less-than-ideal.

MJK sounded great, and the extended Lateralus with the drummer and bassist from JBGSM was very solid. I do think that Tool are a bit lazy in the way that they tour though. With predictable setlists, and even rehearsed / rehashed quips from MJK, it is a tiny bit disappointing. I wish they would switch it up and jam a little more. I also think that my expectations are a little bit high as well....

jvalentine
07-14-2010, 10:27 AM
never seen tool before, was so looking forward to seeing Maynard but he stayed in the dark the whole time. dissapointed

umm....yeah thats kinda how he's done it since 1994.....its about the music not the musicians

soreal
07-14-2010, 10:44 AM
Well sac marks my end of this. Tour.

Arco is a great place for them. Justin and Danny seemed to be having fun. 11th row seats were great. They are killing intolerance, every show it got better.

Great drum / bass battle.

5 shows and this was the best next to RR night 2.

Talked to Danny after the show and he said him and Justin and Adam are writing a lot. Really excited.

Thanks again tool, till next time.

aaronras
07-14-2010, 11:06 AM
.... My first Tool Concert, and hopefully not my last. The show was fantastic, Lateralus surprised me, I loved all of the Maynardisms. 46 and 2 was fantastic! Intolerance you could feel the emotion. I was in tears the whole song. After Aenema I felt like I was thrown into a new Universe... Unbelievable show... Lol.. When Maynard walks over to hand the bottle to the gauntanamo drummer.
btw Anyone know what Maynards shirt said I couldn't see it from my spot? I thought it said Postal? lol?
Its all going to be alright... :)

jdowney
07-14-2010, 12:03 PM
yeah, it says postal, it is hard to see too, but he has post office worker shorts on as well. the blue with black trim. Maynard seemed more energetic than I have personally ever seen him in the 5 shows I have been to.

Felt the show was actually better than the SF show, but not by a huge margin, maybe just because the band seemed more into it.

loved seeing the drum off, reminded me of the 07 show in SF.

OH, thought it was interesting Danny was wearing a Kings jersey, wasn't sure if it was out of respect or just a goof. But classy of him not to rub the Lakers championship in the sports starved northern California area, its a sad state of affairs when the last champion in the bay area is the Monarchs.

Hansonszoo
07-14-2010, 12:12 PM
yeah, it says postal, it is hard to see too, but he has post office worker shorts on as well. the blue with black trim. Maynard seemed more energetic than I have personally ever seen him in the 5 shows I have been to.

Felt the show was actually better than the SF show, but not by a huge margin, maybe just because the band seemed more into it.

loved seeing the drum off, reminded me of the 07 show in SF.

OH, thought it was interesting Danny was wearing a Kings jersey, wasn't sure if it was out of respect or just a goof. But classy of him not to rub the Lakers championship in the sports starved northern California area, its a sad state of affairs when the last champion in the bay area is the Monarchs.

Maynard wore the same thing in St. Charles, MO on this tour. He was even sporting his US Postal Service Cap. http://www.riverfronttimes.com/slideshow/tool-at-family-arena-6-26-10-30204107/1/

Aletheon
07-14-2010, 12:26 PM
This was my 10th or 11th TOOL show dating back to 1993. I really need to figure out the dates. This show was near the top. Aside from Maynard not being able to scream like a 20-year old, the band is really sounding good this tour, and I thought all the additions to the songs helped the overall quality of the show.

Also, the internet ruins the suprise of a TOOL show. I wish I hadn't known the setlist, because if I hadn't known, and them opening with THIRD EYE, including Intolerance and The Patient, I would have been twice as blown away. So...yeah, don't screw up your live experience with prior knowledge.

Arco didn't sound as good as it could have. It was quite muddier than I've seen them before, but still sounded good enough to where it didn't take anything away from the performance, it just didn't have that extra sharp perfection that I've heard before from them soundwise. So, something was up with the mix that night, or maybe it was where I was sitting. All in all, probably a top 3 show from what I've seen.

livid star
07-14-2010, 12:35 PM
"Same" set list or not, these guys are sounding fucking tight. That is all that matters in my book because I live in reality.

Yes, the start of the show was sounding terrible. The treble with Justin would not stop, he was drowned out. It was quickly resolved. Someone mentioned the mix of vocals, I noticed that but wasn't sure if Nard just was not singing, as per usual. Tool's crew are AMAZING!

Though I've gazed over the set list, I've never noticed if it was done before: I realized Intolerance was extended! I love that, how they pause and pick up to take you some where you have not been before and then come out, flawlessly, to the familiar. If there is a spiral to swing on, I was assuredly blazing mine last night.I can not thank Tool enough for that.

I was surprised that Sacto was phenomenally better than SF. I was sure it'd be the other way around. My seat was awesome! I was on Justin's side and he'd give props to our section and we went nuts! He nailed his piece during Schism. This man's energy is so fierce and yet so effortless looking. Watch out for Justin on the next album (fingers crossed).

I was sitting and absorbing the intermission spectacle when the techs start to bustle around on stage. OH SHIT A FUCKING DRUM DUAL! Lateralus was extened by an extra seven minutes(give or take). Sometimes I feel like: why the fuck is everyone so anal about keeping exact times and orders of set lists? Just sit there, shut the fuck up and enjoy the ride.

In summation, I had the time of my Tool life. I can say that because I missed the Lateralus tour, so maybe I don't "know better." lol

Give the guys love, they will return it TEN FOLD! It was palpable, the magic generated all around. It's all for love. I am now determined to get to both LA shows. (So if you have something, PM me!)

THANK YOU TOOL!

Matthew77
07-14-2010, 01:02 PM
"Same" set list or not, these guys are sounding fucking tight. That is all that matters in my book because I live in reality.

Yes, the start of the show was sounding terrible. The treble with Justin would not stop, he was drowned out. It was quickly resolved. Someone mentioned the mix of vocals, I noticed that but wasn't sure if Nard just was not singing, as per usual. Tool's crew are AMAZING!

Though I've gazed over the set list, I've never noticed if it was done before: I realized Intolerance was extended! I love that, how they pause and pick up to take you some where you have not been before and then come out, flawlessly, to the familiar. If there is a spiral to swing on, I was assuredly blazing mine last night.I can not thank Tool enough for that.

I was surprised that Sacto was phenomenally better than SF. I was sure it'd be the other way around. My seat was awesome! I was on Justin's side and he'd give props to our section and we went nuts! He nailed his piece during Schism. This man's energy is so fierce and yet so effortless looking. Watch out for Justin on the next album (fingers crossed).

I was sitting and absorbing the intermission spectacle when the techs start to bustle around on stage. OH SHIT A FUCKING DRUM DUAL! Lateralus was extened by an extra seven minutes(give or take). Sometimes I feel like: why the fuck is everyone so anal about keeping exact times and orders of set lists? Just sit there, shut the fuck up and enjoy the ride.

In summation, I had the time of my Tool life. I can say that because I missed the Lateralus tour, so maybe I don't "know better." lol

Give the guys love, they will return it TEN FOLD! It was palpable, the magic generated all around. It's all for love. I am now determined to get to both LA shows. (So if you have something, PM me!)

THANK YOU TOOL!

I was at the Seattle show and that was show number 12 for me and I have to agree with you. This was one badass show and it ranks up there with the best shows I have seen! And I saw Aenima and Lateralus toured.

godhenry
07-14-2010, 01:25 PM
in the past, i would always feel nostalgic after a TOOL show and keep wanting more. but after last night, i'm almost afraid of going to another TOOL show, somehow believing, albeit wrongly, that there would be no way they could ever top last night and it could only be disappointment from now on. that's how F$%KING GREAT the Sacto show was.

i'm pretty content right now. =)

whoremoans
07-14-2010, 02:12 PM
umm....yeah thats kinda how he's done it since 1994.....its about the music not the musicians

actually he didn't really start hiding in the shadows until the Lateralus tour. checkout any shows from the Aenima and Undertow tours and he's right out front....

not that it matters.

sanya132
07-14-2010, 02:38 PM
First of all... THIS SHOW WAS AMAZING. I have seen a good number of shows at this venue and (of course) TOOL was amazing. The opening band isn't much to talk about, but the musicians seemed descent. I was thinking Tool had picked this band because of those two brothers who they jammed with during Lateralus.

I had a pretty legit seat on the second floor so I could see the entire stage and everything that went on during the show, including the change-ups on the stage. The techs in the lab coats was a nice touch. It seemed like they worked fast and efficiently.

The sound of this show was almost unbelievable. I have to agree with the other posters about the BASS. I was up in the second floor and I could still feel it throughout the entire show. The intermissions and the jam during Lateralus added to the show, no doubt. However, just seeing the guys perform would have been enough. Seeing the setlist before the show did take away from the experience so I will make sure not to make the same mistake in the future. In spite of that I Loved the show and couldn't keep still in my seat the entire night. I kept getting blown away, song after song. The Maynardisms seemed pretty original too, despite what some say, and I think he said "It's all gonna workout." and not "It's all going to be okay." but the way he said it made me crack up laughing.

The guys seemed very into the show, especially Justin and Maynard. I had a good view of them the entire show. Maynard was dancing almost the entire show, grooving to the songs, dancing, or watching Danny tear it up. Danny was AMAZING (nuf said). Adam seemed a little out of it but that might have been due to him being focused on his work. Justin was a beast. Very energetic like Danny, and seemed to be giving it his all (all while making it look easy).

I didn't get a poster or the t-shirt from this show, which was really lame and definitely the worst part of the show. I wish I would've known about the guy in the parking lot.... When I got up in the front of the line at the merch booth, turned out they only had the L and XL of the limited edition t-shirts. Guess I'll give e-bay a look..

The crowd was truly great, not the usual Sac-to d-bags.

Anyway... TOOL did not disappoint. This was my first show and hopefully not the last.

One last thing which I found funny. At the end of the show I was standing outside in front of the Arena next to the huge Pepsi cup that is splashing... anyway, some tweaker runs up to it and was sayin he's gonna "shot-gun that huge pepsi" HAHAHA... damn tweakers.

zen len
07-14-2010, 04:12 PM
fantastic show. this is a bit of a comparo since I was at both. sorry if that is not the point here.

overall the sound was great from the box seats in 219. i actually heard more echo @ Billy Graham than Arco. In the city, we were sitting front row on the lower deck just to one side of the VIP area.

Anyway, it doesn't matter because both shows were incredible. Maynardisms were not the same at both shows with the exception of the "see, it all worked out" comment. In SF he said after third eye something like "in spite of our best efforts to fu** it all up, its all gonna workout" He said "see it all worked out" after lateralus (no jam session w Weiss brothers in SF)

SF - before intolerance he asked who was under 21 then told them they were sperm when it was written. Arco he babbled about back to future which was comical in its own right.

I would have loved to hear flood or right in two over schism but they still killed every song. I thought the band overall sounded better and seemed more into it at this show. Maynard pretty much low fived the guys and ran off stage in the city - He waved and seemed pretty pleased with the Arco crowd - as was I.

Off to Nokia - maybe....

jdowney
07-14-2010, 04:46 PM
overall the sound was great from the box seats in 219. i actually heard more echo @ Billy Graham than Arco. In the city, we were sitting front row on the lower deck just to one side of the VIP area.


were you on the left or right?

I was front row on the left, side of the VIP area, which as far as I remember didn't even come close to being filled.

I was shocked to see the Arco crowd had more energy and stood for the entire show, I had a better view of the visual presentation in SF, but had a better view of Maynard and Justin in Sacramento, it was cool to see the show from a different angle.

JessicaSarahS
07-14-2010, 05:35 PM
in the past, i would always feel nostalgic after a TOOL show and keep wanting more. but after last night, i'm almost afraid of going to another TOOL show, somehow believing, albeit wrongly, that there would be no way they could ever top last night and it could only be disappointment from now on. that's how F$%KING GREAT the Sacto show was.

i'm pretty content right now. =)



I agree! This show was fantastic! The energy was great, the crowd was great. Loved it.

zen len
07-14-2010, 06:21 PM
were you on the left or right?

I was front row on the left, side of the VIP area, which as far as I remember didn't even come close to being filled.

I was shocked to see the Arco crowd had more energy and stood for the entire show, I had a better view of the visual presentation in SF, but had a better view of Maynard and Justin in Sacramento, it was cool to see the show from a different angle.


Looking at the stage, the VIP area was to our right. So I guess we must have been on the same side right? Actually there was one more section in between ours and the VIP. Arco crowd was nuts. It wasn't just because there were twice as many people either - the crowd was way into it.

I didn't think the band was lacking in intensity in SF until after the sac performance. I also thought the Vocals were either mixed better or he was singing louder/more at Arco.

Like I said before - i thought both shows were absolutely amazing - zero complaints here.

I had the same experience as you regarding the visuals vs band view. I am so glad I went to both shows. Really considering a road trip to Nokia/LA for Mondays show. Flights are 330bux since it's less than 3 weeks away so it's drive or nothing.... decisions, decisions.

jdowney
07-14-2010, 06:30 PM
Yeah we must have been in the same row, but different sections, the vip was the very next section to my right.


The Sac crowd was so cool, I was really feeling like the crowd was going to be lame based on seeing some stuff in the food and merch areas, saw some guy just give the merch lady a ton of shit because she wouldn't serve him because he was off to the side where there were postings that they were not serving people on that side. Plus i read that the sacramento crowds are not usually as into tool as the SF crowds.

It might just be the security Sac had, my uncle got his napkins searched, hit up Jimboys (the only thing I enjoy about the sac area at this point) before the show and I guess he had a napkin in his pocket, but SF had way more people trying to film or take video of the show than Sacramento.

! small tiny complaint, is if they are not using the screens that move up and down, keep them up, I could not see Danny at all during one of his solo's because the screen was down, they made up for it by lifting them up during the lateralus drum session.

Also thought it was bad ass Justin smoking towards the end.

aaronras
07-14-2010, 07:08 PM
Oh and some kid pissed in a cup and spilled it on the people two rows below us... Right during Lateralus, and they all got pulled from the seats to talk to security.. I would of been soo pissed!!

godhenry
07-14-2010, 07:14 PM
Junior, I was one of the two happy idiots sitting 2 or 3 rows behind you, waving at you and shouting out your name (to show support) before the show. Being able to see your work from your angle/direction was a complete privilege. THANK YOU!!!

aaronras
07-14-2010, 07:20 PM
oh and somehow if anyone took a picture through the ass of security, send a link please!!

badisposition
07-14-2010, 07:53 PM
ok i too saw both shows sf and arco

in sf i sat in the lower level balcony left of vip seats great view of the entire presentation
and the face of a security guard (painful). The sound mix was great heard every instrument and Maynard.

At arco i was on the floor 10 rows from the stage pretty much dead center.
i had not been this close to the band since i was being crushed against the front of the stage
at the berkeley square. the sound was okay for the most part. though towards the end bass
was muddy. and slightly distorting. many times the music shot thru my balls and rattled my soul
thats why im here i thought to myself.

over the many years ive been listening to Tool and going to their shows. I find the earliest shows to be far and away to be the ones that stay with me. Maynard out front giving the crowd the finger
and screaming Fuck youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu to start Hush. i was forever hooked.

thank you tool for all the amazing music you provide

runfoxrun
07-14-2010, 08:28 PM
BTW: The posters for this show were pulled at the last minute. Apparently, Adam did not like them so they pulled them from all merch booths. Not before someone bought 30 of the unsigned ones, then sold them all in the parking lot for $30 each.

Great Show as always ... Thankyou TOOL, and the greater community.
Guys, what was up with the official poster for the night? Friend and I got to purchase one of the Black Carded ones for SAC, with the embossed logo and all, unsigned, outside the will call doors before the show from a SAC event staff member.

Was this guy sneaking them out to sell? whilst Adam shut them down to NOT SELL? we later walked in to the merch booth to buy a signed Alberta, and im sure i saw a stack of upside down Black carded posters stacked in the back.

To those that got one, how lucky are we? from that 400 printed, must of only been like 100 that got into ppls hands.

JessicaSarahS
07-14-2010, 09:18 PM
oh and somehow if anyone took a picture through the ass of security, send a link please!!

I have some taken with my cell. I've only uploaded a couple.

Pic one (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jessicasarahs/4792353569/in/set-72157622737627038/)
Pic two (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jessicasarahs/4792124023/in/set-72157622737627038/)

aaronras
07-14-2010, 10:09 PM
I have some taken with my cell. I've only uploaded a couple.

Pic one (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jessicasarahs/4792353569/in/set-72157622737627038/)
Pic two (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jessicasarahs/4792124023/in/set-72157622737627038/)

Thank you!! God this was an amazing show....

Necator
07-15-2010, 02:05 AM
I could sum the show up as:

'Wow that was awesome!'

As a warning this was my first Tool concert, and my first Rock concert in years. I also may have been *cough*rolling *cough* ;) But whatever...


Got to the show early and waited in line on the curb. A guy was walking about selling posters but I passed thinking I'd just wait till I got inside. Sadly once I got inside every booth said they got the posters pulled at the last minute and nobody knew why. I was rather bummed out as the only thing I wanted to buy was a poster. But right before the opening band started I broke down and paid the -holy shit 40 bucks- for a T shirt.

In spite of the price, the T shirt was pretty cool with a blue skull like face made out of pillars of light.

Finding my seat on floor 1 I was pretty happy to find myself about 10 or 11 rows back dead center in front of the large overhead speaker. The place was still semi empty when the opening bad started. And while they had a lot of energy they were just... Not my kind of music. But they looked like they were really into their performance so I give them an A for effort.

Over the next 20 minutes I looked back to find that the place was really starting to fill up. And almost as soon as the lights went down everybody on the floor got up (some trying to get forward pass security).


As others have said before Third Eye was just an amazing opener. Being a stones throw away and almost dead center to the bass (Justin) I felt like the music was going to blow me away.

By the time Jambi started the crowd around me was just about going nuts. The big mean looking security guard close by seem pretty mellow as I saw a couple people taking pictures and a few others getting high.

Visually the show just got better and better and it got to the point where it all felt so surreal and dreamlike. At one point the back stage displayed straight pillars of blue light that from left to right slowly formed into the skull like face on the very same shirt I bought.

A very memorable bonus I thought.


As for the band members they all seem to be really into the show. I admit I had a slight fear that seeing a concert this late in the tour might make for some burned out musicians but this was not the case at all. MJK was dancing about in the back between vocals. During vicariously he tried to get the crowd to sing the words for him but being back there I don't think many people would notice his hand gestures. He also had some paper cards with exclamation marks and a frown face that he turned upside down at the end.


Drums (Danny) was truly an impressive sight and I can see why this guy gets so much credit. The drum off was amazing. And beat of the songs was echoing in my head the whole drive home.

I did not get to see much of Adam on the Guitar from where I was but he seem to be very focused on playing every time I looked over.

Having a very good view of Justin I gotta say that unless he is a very good actor he was certainly having a good time. At a couple points he waved the crowed up on his side.

By the end of the show MJK gave a wave and a smile (or was it a grin?) before darting off while the other guys tossed out stuff to the crowd.


Now the bad:

People that get up to get beers every other song.

Fuck you.

I mean really you pay all this money for great seats only to get up and miss half the song getting a beer only to go on and do it the next song. I try to think "To each their own" But you get in my way and kill the buzz of the moment.


More bad: Tinnitus! I hope this shit goes away... Oh and 40 bucks for a shirt? Really? And pulled posters? 4 bucks for water? I may sound cheap here but you don't let me bring water in then charge me a 300% mark up on something? I wonder if supply and demand plays a role in the price or what.


So in closing, the show and the band/music was awesome. The crowd was really into it and the venue and prices sucked.

godhenry
07-15-2010, 09:18 AM
I have some taken with my cell. I've only uploaded a couple.

Pic one (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jessicasarahs/4792353569/in/set-72157622737627038/)
Pic two (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jessicasarahs/4792124023/in/set-72157622737627038/)

awesome pics. where were your seats?

JessicaSarahS
07-15-2010, 09:59 AM
awesome pics. where were your seats?

Thanks! I was in section 101, third row. I had a great view of the stage. I'm short, so I wouldn't be able to see anything unless I'm within the first few rows of the stage or up in the stands. It worked out well. :)

godhenry
07-15-2010, 10:02 AM
Thanks! I was in section 101, third row. I had a great view of the stage. I'm short, so I wouldn't be able to see anything unless I'm within the first few rows of the stage or up in the stands. It worked out well. :)

sweet. we were in section 102, 5th row. so we were practically neighbors. great view for sure!

MJudge
07-15-2010, 10:57 AM
umm....yeah thats kinda how he's done it since 1994.....its about the music not the musicians
actually he started doing that in around 01. prior to that he was still up front, dressed as a preacher, a transvestite, painted blue etc...

thelastsuperpower
07-15-2010, 11:43 AM
umm....yeah thats kinda how he's done it since 1994.....its about the music not the musicians


Gotta love the mindless sheep who think that anything TOOL puts their stinky fingers on is automatically gold. Besides, if was all about the music, we wouldn't be getting the same set (minus a couple of minor changes) for the past 4 years. It's most definitely all about the money these days. How else would a once pioneering band explain the same set and stage show for years on end?

I was at the show in Sac-town and the one on 7/1 in St. Paul. My 43rd and 44th(albeit mostly pre-2001), so i think i earned my right to not blindly keep my tongue firmly inserted in this band's metaphorical ass. First off, the "amazing" new light show looks like it was purchased at a Trent Reznor garage sale after he decided to stop the touring version of NIN. Looks cheesy and generic combined with the HD projection graphics the band has used for years. Really out of place. Second, El Nardo has become almost useless these days on stage, especially the show in MN. Whats up? If he doesn;t want to do it, then don't. I know the lure of his boyfirend's penis and desert wine is tremendously overwhelmming but thousands of fans paid to see a TOOL show, including vocals.

It's a shame the 'nard can't seem to put as much focus into keeping his voice in shape as he does stompin grapes. Whats with bringin that Arizona version of Boones farm on stage anyway? I thought he wanted to keep the two "entities seperate"? I've seen first hand how this egomaniac treats TOOL fans, and the like, like pure turds when they show up at his ridiculous supermarket wine signings and has the audacity to complain then turns around and brings that garbage on stage with him. Oh and the taking pictures with his camera phone in an attempt to mock the crowd was just plain stupid. I say learn to sing your parts before trying to make a weak attempt at being funny.

This band was once groundbreaking and innovative, but it hasn't been that way for quite some while. I will always support the 3 actual musicians the band has left. Danny is the greatest drummer around, imo. Let me know when El Nardo pulls his head out of his ass. TOOL has officially gotten complacent and lazy (particularly maynard). They are now officially following the trend instead of setting it.

thelastsuperpower
07-15-2010, 11:56 AM
And whats up with Maynard asking each and every crowd about time machines before playing "Intolerance"? Is it that big of a treat for a crowd to see a band play an old song (that they themselves wrote) during their set? I see bands do it everyday, but apparantly when 'Nard the tard decides to do it, everyone should feel lucky to be alive. Wow, i went to a concert and the band played a song they wrote! Holy shit, it's amazing, never seen anything like it. The band played a song of theirs live. Time to issue a commemorative stamp.

JessicaSarahS
07-15-2010, 12:47 PM
sweet. we were in section 102, 5th row. so we were practically neighbors. great view for sure!

Haha, nice! It was great. I wish I could go to the So. Cal shows. Too bad work gets in the way!

livid star
07-15-2010, 12:55 PM
And whats up with Maynard asking each and every crowd about time machines before playing "Intolerance"? Is it that big of a treat for a crowd to see a band play an old song (that they themselves wrote) during their set?.
During a tour, I believe it's called continuity. It's just unfortunate/contradictive that nard is an inconsistent performer with Tool. It is extremely annoying and draining to deal with most Tool fans and I think that is what you see with Maynard. His relationship seems certainly love hate with Tool. But the money is too nice to wave good bye to.

JessicaSarahS
07-15-2010, 01:13 PM
It's a shame the 'nard can't seem to put as much focus into keeping his voice in shape as he does stompin grapes. Whats with bringin that Arizona version of Boones farm on stage anyway? I thought he wanted to keep the two "entities seperate"? I've seen first hand how this egomaniac treats TOOL fans, and the like, like pure turds when they show up at his ridiculous supermarket wine signings and has the audacity to complain then turns around and brings that garbage on stage with him. Oh and the taking pictures with his camera phone in an attempt to mock the crowd was just plain stupid.

First of all, his vocals were great, especially when you factor in age and how long they've played live. Can't be a spring chicken your whole life! Second, he wasn't promoting his wine at the show. He was just drinking it. There was also a bottle of water on stage next to him. Does this mean he's trying to merge the Aquafina entity into Tool? Give me a break. Third, have you seen some of the fans? Some of them are downright idiotic and creepy. This doesn't account for the majority, of course. And assholes that have been 'treated badly' by Maynard, or any other remotely famous person, usually scream and complain louder and are heard over those that have had good experiences. But I will agree with you that the rest of the band are quite talented as well. That's obvious.

thelastsuperpower
07-15-2010, 01:40 PM
First of all, his vocals were great, especially when you factor in age and how long they've played live. Can't be a spring chicken your whole life! Second, he wasn't promoting his wine at the show. He was just drinking it. There was also a bottle of water on stage next to him. Does this mean he's trying to merge the Aquafina entity into Tool? Give me a break. Third, have you seen some of the fans? Some of them are downright idiotic and creepy. This doesn't account for the majority, of course. And assholes that have been 'treated badly' by Maynard, or any other remotely famous person, usually scream and complain louder and are heard over those that have had good experiences. But I will agree with you that the rest of the band are quite talented as well. That's obvious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rooPPLtK9pg&feature=related

It's so predictable. Thanks for playing.

Never seen Nard take one drink of that crap. Besides whats age got to do with singing well (see: Halford, Dickinson, Dio before his untimely passing, even Buzz puts forth more effort, all of which are much older than Maynard)?

"Does this mean he's trying to merge the Aquafina entity into Tool?"-this is such an ignorant and invalid rebuttal. Is 'Nard responsible for creating Aquafina, brainiac? Learn to read

sarahethan
07-15-2010, 01:58 PM
actually he didn't really start hiding in the shadows until the Lateralus tour. checkout any shows from the Aenima and Undertow tours and he's right out front....

not that it matters.

Correct, I saw them in 98 and he was roaming.

thelastsuperpower
07-15-2010, 02:14 PM
Usually declaring intelligence over random strangers is indicative of not only insecurity, but said proclamations are usually false, such is the situation we have here. Not to mention your prior post tried to correlate bad shows with somehow not getting laid. Therefore it is with 100% assurance that i conclude intilligence is not one of your strong traits. But I do love how a lack of sex automatically comes to your meager mind when such circumstances arise. The self stated higher intelligence with no grounds for merit is quite endearing too. Keep up the good work.

JessicaSarahS
07-15-2010, 02:32 PM
Apparantly, there is no age requirement and they'll let any random 15 year old post here.

...coming from a guy that continues to throw money at and follow what they consider a "complacent and lazy" band. Just keep convincing yourself that you're not a mindless sheep yourself.

Dickedoo
07-15-2010, 02:49 PM
This was the greatest concert I've ever been to. The concert was more of a religious experience on how great it was. Truly one of the best nights of my life. My girlfriend came with me to the concert. Which she isn't even a fan of Tool. Until we went to the concert. Now she has said that the concert was the best she's ever been to.

If I had to pick a downside to the concert. I would say the stupid security guards coming around with their lights and messing with people who weren't even bothering anyone else. Besides that, the night was fantastic. I don't think I can ever go to another concert without comparing it to this show.

Thank you Tool for giving me one of the greatest nights in my life.

Bob E. Bratwurst
07-15-2010, 03:59 PM
After 13 years I finally decided to register for this. The Sac show was amazing. Tool has been my favorite band since the Aenima days. But I've only seen them 3 times. The visuals at the Sac show were the best I've seen yet. Those screens they were using were so cool and weird. It was my first time seeing Third Eye and Intolerance and I got kinda weepy. I loved Maynard saying "It's all gonna be alright" before going into Aenema. Danny and Adam were amazing, as always. And Justin's energy is infectious. The acknowledgement of the crowed at the end was nice. I agree with the people saying that the viewing of the setlist beforehand kinda ruins the surprise, though. It's still amazing but not as amazing as it would've been without the prior knowledge of a possibility of Third Eye and Intolerance. Never doing that again. Anyway, it was an amazing show nonetheless. Thanks to JessicaSarahS for the pics. I've been searching Google for the past 2 hours looking for pictures of the show. Overall, the fans were respectful of the people around them. At least in my section. One thing that kinda ruined the vibe was after the show and I was standing outside having a cigarette and this guy walks up and asks for a light. I handed him my lighter and I asked him who the other drummer was during Lateralus. I had not heard of Jello Biafra's new band so I was curious as to who the drummer was. The guy told me it was Dana Carvey from SNL and then he said something to the girl he was with as he pointed at me and they started laughing. I'd like to think that Tool fans, for the most part, are intelligent, thoughtful people. A lot of people I've talked to seem to be. But I guess that's just not the case for some. There's no need for that sort of asshole behavior at a Tool show. It's supposed to be a positive experience. We all have a common interest and that interest is Tool. Whatever. But besides that, it was totally worth the 7 hour car ride through the central valley from Los Angeles. Can't wait to see them again on the next tour. I have fallen in love with them all over again.

Rokky
07-15-2010, 04:24 PM
loved the show! They never dissappoint.

livid star
07-15-2010, 04:39 PM
Talk about mindless sheep:

I walked up to the arena at 8:20p and there were an assload of people STILL waiting to get in. The line extended into the fucking parking lot. Turns out all of you were lining up for one single security check point - verus if you would have opened your eyes ,you would have seen that there were 5 other checkers with ZERO people in line, just waiting to get you in!
The event staff should have helped the morons a little more on that.

Simple Toon
07-15-2010, 04:52 PM
Can you kids stop bickering? That only shows how lame you guys are. No offense to anyone, of course.

I sat in one of the upper-level seats, but it was still amazing. I didn't care much for the opening band, but they were 'alright', I guess. I noticed some mess-ups here and there, too. Danny kicked ass like he always does. The light show was interesting as well. It was my first Tool concert, so I guess I don't have much to compare to. I think Maynard did fine with his vocals - the only fuck up I noticed on his part was something entirely out of his control. I'm lookin' forward to some new stuff in the future.

Also, did anyone else notice the guy standing outsite of one of the exits on some kind of container, holding up a sign that said "Tool let us down"?

godhenry
07-15-2010, 04:57 PM
Also, did anyone else notice the guy standing outsite of one of the exits on some kind of container, holding up a sign that said "Tool let us down"?

yes! what was up with that?

godhenry
07-15-2010, 05:09 PM
a friend of mine saw it and told me about it. it reminded me of the religious protesters at some of the nin shows i've been to. strange.

Simple Toon
07-15-2010, 05:11 PM
The guy holding up the sign looked like he was either very scared, or having a damned good rush. His eyes were pretty wide. Either way, he didn't look very bright.

Bob E. Bratwurst
07-15-2010, 07:40 PM
I have no idea. I heard something about oil, though?

Yeah he was saying "Tool rocks but not here". He was saying something about Arco, BP and that Tool doesn't support green energy. He kept fumbling his words and stuttering. I thought "Wow, this guy was born to protest". I'm sure there are more important things to be protesting than Tool playing at an arena that was paid for by Arco. WTF?

dpad13
07-15-2010, 08:40 PM
Yeah he was saying "Tool rocks but not here". He was saying something about Arco, BP and that Tool doesn't support green energy. He kept fumbling his words and stuttering. I thought "Wow, this guy was born to protest". I'm sure there are more important things to be protesting than Tool playing at an arena that was paid for by Arco. WTF?

Maybe that's why they pulled the Arco posters!!!

Bob E. Bratwurst
07-15-2010, 11:00 PM
Maybe that's why they pulled the Arco posters!!!

My cousin told me that he bought a tour poster from one of the "professionals" who work at the arena who was hawking the posters outside for $30. He thought it was legit so he went ahead and bought one without realizing that that guy wasn't supposed to have them. So I'm thinking that's why the merch booth pulled the remaining posters.

Agenda
07-15-2010, 11:41 PM
Gotta love the mindless sheep who think that anything TOOL puts their stinky fingers on is automatically gold. Besides, if was all about the music, we wouldn't be getting the same set (minus a couple of minor changes) for the past 4 years. It's most definitely all about the money these days. How else would a once pioneering band explain the same set and stage show for years on end?
.

This has been explained on more than one occasion, often by band members. Maynard no longer has the ability sing many TOOL songs. He just doesn't. If you listen to any of the modern bootlegs, he now struggles with every bit of the material. It's what happens when you have spent night after night screaming and giving your all. By the way Maynard hangs out in the dark, because he has over sensitive pupils, in addition to a couple of other things. If you watch any video of a perfect circle playing on a TV show he keeps his eyes closed due to the light. Anyways TOOL have reworked nearly all of the road material by adding and changing the standard live songs. The stage has seen a couple changes and additions over the last couple years as well.

On to the show.... This was my 16th TOOL show. I'd give it a 4/5. The bass was overdriven for most of the show so we lost some of the intricacies (mainly danny's stuff) although that was really the only audio issue for the show. Maynard was much further out front than past shows I've seen on the post Lateralus tours. Although this means you can hear the effects on his voice very clearly. The crowd was shit. At least in my section, Did you know yelling during the songs "woooo maynard fuck yeah" is stupid? Because I know it's stupid. So please stop doing it. As always the lights were very pretty. Thanks to Junior and company. The show was too short, but who wouldn't say that? One more thing Jello and company..... Your band is awful.

dpad13
07-16-2010, 05:56 AM
My cousin told me that he bought a tour poster from one of the "professionals" who work at the arena who was hawking the posters outside for $30. He thought it was legit so he went ahead and bought one without realizing that that guy wasn't supposed to have them. So I'm thinking that's why the merch booth pulled the remaining posters.

Can your cousin take a picture of this rumored poster so we can see it???

jdowney
07-16-2010, 09:43 AM
Sounds like you, like most TOOL fans are good at making excuses for these guys (nard in particular). Don't bother, I've heard all the excuses imaginable. In fact, i've heard everything but the truth. I especially love how fans try to justify the same stage/set by saying its actually different with just a few very minor alterations. It's like watching your favorite baseball player have a 4 year slump and when he does get a hit, you justify his greatness to everyone.

Clearly you more than love it, because here you are reading each and every post about it.

Is this some modern for of flagellation?

You say that TOOL is complacent and lazy, but also say you will support the 3 actual musicians, so which is it, you realize that 3/4 is actually a majority of the band TOOL? so the majority of the band is worth supporting, but the band is still complacent and lazy? Its like the "Nard dog himself came up with this statement. see what I did there, I saved some time and energy calling him 'Nard instead of Maynard, its clever and I have never seen anyone else do it, it makes me special.

The show was great for me, and I felt it was slightly better than the SF show.


My cousin told me that he bought a tour poster from one of the "professionals" who work at the arena who was hawking the posters outside for $30. He thought it was legit so he went ahead and bought one without realizing that that guy wasn't supposed to have them. So I'm thinking that's why the merch booth pulled the remaining posters.

Have your cousin post a picture, I am curious to see the art Adam drew for it, also curious to see if it is mis-aligned, that was the reason given by one of the people working the merchandise both, they didn't like the alignment of the print.

Simple Toon
07-16-2010, 10:02 AM
Hey, uhm... thelastsuperpower. Why did you take the time to find this site if you dislike Tool so much? I mean, the domain itself is kind of specific... It's not like you stumbled upon this site without searching "Tool" through one engine or another. We get it, dude. You don't like Tool. But instead of making your point in a "cool" way you just sound like an incessantly whiny little kid. If you want to call us "Mindless sheep" for enjoying Tool, then that's good for you. But if you want to OBVIOUSLY go out and go as far as to join a Tool forum -on the Internet- just to bitch and moan because Tool isn't living up to your expectations (I doubt Maynard really cares, anyway), then we can just say "Hey, I don't think that thelastsuperpower kid can fathom the reason Maynard does what he does." and be on our jolly way.

Then again, none of us can really do that, right? He's a pretty mysterious guy.

TOD
07-16-2010, 10:10 AM
The best Tool show I have seen out of the 5 others I went to on the 10,000 days tour. I wear audiophile earplugs at shows, so some of the crisper freaquencies are filtered out, but I suffer from a lot ailments with my ears for a guy in his early 20's who is a musician. I have 100 percent hearing in both ears as of last year. The reason I mention this is becuase my brother says that maynard was too quiet some of the time and I can't remember that ever being the case. His voice soared durring The Patient, Intolerance, Third Eye, Stinkfist, and all the others too. I am so glad to finally hear Jambi the way it is supposed to be played live, awesomely. The bass was so fuzzy, the guitar so crisp, and finally the vocals were spot on too! We need never mention the drums because Danny is always rocking it. The whole band played with passion and sounded great. The Opener was hilarious and I hope to see Jello again in a small club. The Guantonamo School of Medicine...Jello takes the stage wearing a blood splattered lab coat and underneath an upsidedown American Flag Shirt. He say's,"this is the first time any of the musicains on stage have ever played at an arena named after a corporation. They don't name them after heros, insiring musicans, or great atheletes anymore, but corporations...how does it feel to be slaves to your Feudal Lords?" I really enjoyed Jello's antics.

I have been exited to see Third Eye since the first show they played that it might have effected my enjoyment of the actually performance, but I thought that it was a weak version of Third Eye, but it's funny that they Opened with it. Great show. Can't wait for the new material and more additions to this Stage Show. The intros really flow into the songs fluidly and the thing they played before Lateralus went through my body and rattled the whole arena. The red lighted eyes on the Alex Grey Tapestry are relly funny too.

thelastsuperpower
07-16-2010, 11:39 AM
I don't know or not if you actually read my post. I see you did go through the trouble of quoting it in your rebuttal. I'll go ahead and repeat it though to save you the trouble of actually have to read it. I said most of the shows i've attended we're "(mostly pre-2001)," I just can't see how someone can see the same show over and over again and be happy with it. I've been to only a handful of 10,000 Days shows. They were all the same with the exception of a couple of minor alterations (i.e.-different lights, a couple of songs being substitutes for other songs similar in length, "maynardisms." I apologize for being a buzzkill, but I will rebutt if attacked for merely stating my opinion. Just a bit frustrated. Those shows from the Aenima tours were undeniably magical. Almost filled you with a sense of intimidation at what you were about to get into. Different shows, different sets, different sensations, Mayanard even said different shit in between songs from night to night. These shows, on the other hand, are not magical and you can even pick it up from the members at times throughout shows on this tour. They seem almost bored at times, especially Maynard. Same show every night for years. I may be wrong for not realizing it still a good show just not the same. My bad people.


My point is I haven't been to many 10,000 Days shows because of it. 1 or 2 everytime they come around in hopes of getting something different, but to no avail. What you guys are not realizing is i still respect the band just not pleased with the same show every night. Why would they not care?

livid star
07-16-2010, 12:57 PM
Oh yeah, you guys remember after the intermission--
When Maynard came out on stage, he promptly sat at the drum kit that had just been set up for the dual. He sat there for several seconds, long enough for me to voice aloud: "whhaaaat, maynard on drums?" For a second there I seriously thought this was gonna be some funny shit!

Matthew77
07-16-2010, 01:50 PM
I don't know or not if you actually read my post. I see you did go through the trouble of quoting it in your rebuttal. I'll go ahead and repeat it though to save you the trouble of actually have to read it. I said most of the shows i've attended we're "(mostly pre-2001)," I just can't see how someone can see the same show over and over again and be happy with it. I've been to only a handful of 10,000 Days shows. They were all the same with the exception of a couple of minor alterations (i.e.-different lights, a couple of songs being substitutes for other songs similar in length, "maynardisms." I apologize for being a buzzkill, but I will rebutt if attacked for merely stating my opinion. Just a bit frustrated. Those shows from the Aenima tours were undeniably magical. Almost filled you with a sense of intimidation at what you were about to get into. Different shows, different sets, different sensations, Mayanard even said different shit in between songs from night to night. These shows, on the other hand, are not magical and you can even pick it up from the members at times throughout shows on this tour. They seem almost bored at times, especially Maynard. Same show every night for years. I may be wrong for not realizing it still a good show just not the same. My bad people.


My point is I haven't been to many 10,000 Days shows because of it. 1 or 2 everytime they come around in hopes of getting something different, but to no avail. What you guys are not realizing is i still respect the band just not pleased with the same show every night. Why would they not care?

Hey man I did not want to make you feel attacked. I was pointing out that you were coming off very negative. I totally remember the days of Maynard being front and center dressed as woman screaming "shut up and buy my new record" those days were great! However that was like 13 years ago. To be still like that would mean no growth. I feel priveleged to have grown with my favorite band.

As for getting the same set list in every city. I don't think its that they don't care but they are exposing there art to new people all of the time. I know for a fact that there were tons of people at the Seattle show that never seen tool live before. Tool has such a loyal following that I believe they are catering to the new fans.

So again if I made you fell attacked then I apologize that was not my intention.

dpad13
07-16-2010, 04:45 PM
Oh yeah, you guys remember after the intermission--
When Maynard came out on stage, he promptly sat at the drum kit that had just been set up for the dual. He sat there for several seconds, long enough for me to voice aloud: "whhaaaat, maynard on drums?" For a second there I seriously thought this was gonna be some funny shit!

That was some funny shit!!! I knew he would get up but was hoping he'd at least give us a bass drum kick!!

jdowney
07-16-2010, 04:48 PM
Does anyone know why they were not letting cars in until around 6pm? I drove up around 5pm and saw a line of cars waiting to get in. Thanks

To Thelastsuperpower:

i'm sorry irony is a concept you are not familiar with. I know it was hard to see it, with all the "quote, of a quote, from a quote" stuff.

you still have not made any mention of your hypocritical criticism about tool being lazy and complacent, twice now you've ignored it.

thank you for telling me what matters, it helps me figure out how to navigate this crazy world of being forced to go to shows we hate and then being forced to comment on how much we hate it on message boards.


You still can't articulate why it was a bad show, and why we are sheep for liking it. You have however stated your opinion on why the shows are not as good as you feel they could be based on previous viewing of the same band.

In attempt to have fun and engage in a respectful discussion, I have clearly disrupted your focus.

I disagree with your assessment of the show and of the state of consiouness of the fans (which I feel loosely associate with), you have continued to just make snide remarks about I.Q. levels and ignore actually explain why the shows are so bad.

Making bad jokes about the lighting (Trent Reznor garage sale) is a pretty weak argument. Seeing as how the majority of reviews feel the lighting is impressive. I have not been to that many shows that utilize lasers, but I do enjoy the visual concept of the current TOOL shows, they add an element to the show that, to me, works with with the music being performed. I flat out think you are wrong in saying the visual aspect of the show is cheesy.

Then you says if "El Nardo" doesn't want to do it, then don't. Practice what your preach, if you don't want to subject yourself to Tool's greed, then don't. When did "Vocals" include dancing around to your liking? "Vocals" to me is just that, the sounds produced by the vocal cords, As long as the vocals are not coming from the cd, I couldn't care less how Maynard does it, but thanks for looking out for the mindless sheeple's money.

So is he an egomaniac or shy recluse who hides in the back? I barley have any idea what the man looks like aside from some pics from the early 90's, I don't care what these guys do outside of the music they produce, so I missed the stage in my life where I cut out pictures from magazines and put them on my wall and obsess over every little word they say, but he has never treated me in any way. I paid to see a show, I felt I got my money's worth.

I could be wrong on this, but I think he is mocking how dependent people are on phones, not mocking how he can take pictures or video from his phone and us, sheep can not. You may have a point if he is mocking us in that way. I just interpreted it differently. And after seeing how many people at all shows, not just TOOL are so busy with their phones that, I personally wouldn't enjoy my time if I did the same, I tend to agree with him. Put the phone down and enjoy the show.

I feel I have already covered your last point about the 3 real musicians, but I won't repeat it because you seem to ignore that part as well.


Wash out your pussy and chalk this one up to experience, they can't all be winners, maybe its time to move on to some other "groundbreaking and innovative" band that deserves your hard earned money.

Bob E. Bratwurst
07-16-2010, 07:54 PM
Have your cousin post a picture, I am curious to see the art Adam drew for it, also curious to see if it is mis-aligned, that was the reason given by one of the people working the merchandise both, they didn't like the alignment of the print.

Oh, so that's why they pulled them. I didn't know that. I didn't get a chance to look at them as I was in such a hurry to find my seat. I just figured it was because some guy got a hold of them and was selling them outside for his own profit. My cousin is gonna take a picture of his this weekend and email it to me. So as soon as he does that, I'll be sure to post it on here. Lates.

Bob E. Bratwurst
07-16-2010, 07:58 PM
Can your cousin take a picture of this rumored poster so we can see it???

Will do as soon as he emails a picture to me. Should be sometime this weekend.

Tychism
07-17-2010, 01:32 PM
The live Tool show is definitely something fun to check out every handful of years, and this round was no exception, most notably in the lighting department which came a long way since I last saw them last in 2007.

Having a good time aside, it's apparent to me that the list of 'regular' songs is getting tired. While I appreciate the opportunity to get out and see the boys play from time to time, I would appreciate greater variety more, which in turn would lead me to purchase more tickets and attend more shows.

The end of the show was proof enough for me as to the fidelity of the band. The musicians seemed grateful to have such a following, whereas Maynard came across indifferent to the fact that a packed house offered over 3 minutes of standing ovation.

kabir
07-17-2010, 09:21 PM
hi everyone.












so, i've deleted the flame war that was here. you guys are welcome to continue it via private message, but please don't keep it up here.













thanks.

contraption
07-19-2010, 12:08 AM
Does anyone have any photographs of the posters that were pulled?

contraption
07-19-2010, 01:10 PM
Nevermind, found one.

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af146/embrace_hope/photo1.jpg