halls of hospital

[jenocide]

this could be his walk down the halls of a hospital unit..behind each door a different story bad or good only one way its ends for those pass'n by...vicarious

[0.618]

how does this relate to the lyrics (more specifically)?

[jenocide]

in every hopsital room is a tv..right in front of the guest aka sick/die'n person..nurses almost always put the news on..leaving em stear at the tv like zombies..each person has a differant story..so the story goes..as a visitor he could only look thru the doors watching from a distance or in passing...much better them/u then i

[Rolo]

..nurses almost always put the news on..leaving em stear at the tv like zombies..You have a huge sense of imagination.

[Enlightened One]

in every hopsital room is a tv..right in front of the guest aka sick/die'n person..nurses almost always put the news on..leaving em stear at the tv like zombies..each person has a differant story..so the story goes..as a visitor he could only look thru the doors watching from a distance or in passing...much better them/u then i

Thats an interesting theory. I don't think that your really getting the meaning of Vicarious. Listen to the song many, many, many more times. OK? At least read the lyrics a couple times. Think what you want to think but there is no way that this song is about a hosptal hallway.

[slamminsalmon]

i dont think you have been in a hospital much.

[0.618]

Thats an interesting theory. I don't think that your really getting the meaning of Vicarious. Listen to the song many, many, many more times. OK? At least read the lyrics a couple times. Think what you want to think but there is no way that this song is about a hosptal hallway.

The hospital idea is interesting. I took the lyrics and started thinking how could a hospital hallway relate to the lyrics. The outcome of my thinking might differ from the OP's one, but maybe it could develop the conversation to new branches.


Eye on the TV
'cause tragedy thrills me
Whatever flavor it happens to be

Like:
"Killed by the husband" ...
"Drowned by the ocean" ...
"Shot by his own son" ...
"She used a poison in his tea,
Then (she) kissed him goodbye"
That's my kind of story
It's no fun til someone dies.


Watching the televisions and the patients as walking by the rooms in the hospital. The news in the television seems so distant and thrilling. However, when looking at the patients it is more real and "its no fun till someone dies" since they represent the people behind the news, who have survived some tragedy and now have to live it.


Don't look at me like I am a monster
Frown out your one face, but with the other (you)
Stare like a junkie into the TV
Stare like a zombie while the mother holds her child,
Watches him die,
Hands to the sky cryin "why, oh why?"


Maybe the patient in one room notices your tragedy tourism and gives you disrespectful face, but in reality the patient is just like you - the only difference is that the patient follows the TV.


Cause I need to watch things die from a distance
Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies
You all need it too - don't lie.

Why can't we just admit it?
Why can't we just admit it?
We won't give pause until the blood is flowin'
Neither the brave nor bold
Nor brightest of stories told
We won't give pause until the blood is flowin'

I need to watch things die from a good safe distance
Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies
You all feel the same so why can't we just admit it?


We all benefit from tragedies, and it would be rad to acknowledge it.


Blood like rain fallin' down
Drum on grave and ground

Part vampire, part warrior,
Carnivore and voyeur
Stare at the transmittal.
Sing to the death rattle.

La, la, la, la, la, la, la-lie (x4)


Now you get to the person you are supposed to visit in the hospital. He is not in good condition and the situation does not look good for him.

You stare at the heart rate machine that reflects his bad condition, but you decide to talk positive and sing the lies to the death rattle.

One some level you might benefit from the situation, on some other level you do not. You are part vampire, part warrior.


Credulous at best
Your desire to believe in
Angels in the hearts of men.
But pull your head on out (of) your hippie haze
And give a listen
Shouldn't have to say it all again

The universe is hostile
So impersonal
Devour to survive
So it is, so it's always been ...


The patient talks about what if some miracle happens through some person/doctor and his state would be improved drastically.

However, you know this would not be the case. You think the patient should take a look around at the other patients and how everyone else are just hanging there for their own survival.


We all feed on tragedy.
It's like blood to a vampire.


The tragedies are everywhere, and in some form or another we all benefit from it.


Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies
Much better you than I.


Now you are leaving the hospital, and for sure you do not want to be in the place of some of those patients.

[Inner_Eulogy]

It's quite a bit of a stretch but I can't knock it considering it's at least logical

[jenocide]

i dont think you have been in a hospital much.

as a two time cancer survivor my stays at hospital were many starting as a 23 yr old recieving radiation..when 10,000 days come to light a friend gave it too me for spiritual guidance when my soul was broken..go'n thru my second war w/chemo and hyprobaric treatments from 2004 thru 2007..a 2 months stay at one point in 2005 in a hospis unit aka place where ppl go to die..8 surgerys and countless number of needles later beating the odds again something i am very proud of..Judiths wings gave me hope/energy...maynards voice gave me honey...and the music gave me insight/uplifted me

[slamminsalmon]

if thats the case, you have been in a hospital too much, regardless i dont see it.

best of luck with surviving and your bills.

[jenocide]

Eye on the TV
'cause tragedy thrills me
Whatever flavor it happens to be
Like:
"Killed by the husband" ...
"Drowned by the ocean" ...
"Shot by his own son" ...
"She used a poison in his tea,
Then (she) kissed him goodbye"
That's my kind of story
It's no fun til someone dies

(one eye on the tv the other on the patient that is sleep'n/or rest'n
we have all heard the say'n its all fun in games til someone gets hurt
then all eyes are on you as the blood flows)
-
Don't look at me like I am a monster
Frown out your one face, but with the other (you)
Stare like a junkie into the TV
Stare like a zombie while the mother holds her child,
Watches him die,
Hands to the sky cryin "why, oh why?"

(as he passed by rooms sees a mother w/her child
he/maynard throws up hands...asking why?
even as the mother looks at him like a monster for pry'n
one face frowns cause patient is hooked into iv's in front of tv junkie/zombie
the other face be'n unable to turn away
from the tragedy around him like a junkie/zombie himself

_

Cause I need to watch things die from a distance
But Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies
You all need it too - don't lie.
Why can't we just admit it?
Why can't we just admit it?
We won't give pause until the blood is flowin'

(when looking at handycap/sickly ppl
say to oneself.."glad that isnt me"
but we dont say it out loud even as feeling stronger ourselves)
_

Neither the brave nor bold
Nor brightest of stories told
We won't give pause until the blood is flowin'
I need to watch things die from a good safe distance
Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies
You all feel the same so why can't we just admit it?

(could be telling a brave story of survival brightest story ever told
when someone screams fire everyone goes running to the scene
we all feel releaved knowing its not someone we know
even better if its not us...as we watch from a safe distance)
_

Blood like rain fallin' down
Drum on grave and ground

(the more blood the more ppl watch
closer to death the patient the more ppl come)

_

Part vampire, part warrior,
Carnivore and voyeur
Stare at the transmittal.
Sing to the death rattle.
La, la, la, la, la, la, la-lie (x4)

(a movement causes him/maynard to rememeber the patient
whos pale as a vampire
yet fighting a good fight like a warrior
feels the voyeur for being caught pry'n
but still we lie never amit'n we're glad it isnt us)
-
Credulous at best
Your desire to believe in
Angels in the hearts of men.
pull your head on out (of) your hippie haze
And give a listen
Shouldn't have to say it all again

(they didnt come running to recue the victim of the accedent
outta the goodness of they'r hearts/hippie love and unity
""also the time/60's when handycap got more services"
but to watch carnage/gore to be lookie lue's
_

The universe is hostile
So impersonal
Devour to survive
So it is, so it's always been ...
We all feed on tragedy.
It's like blood to a vampire
Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies
Much better you than I.

(when two galaxies collide..one devours the other
its nothing personal...the stronger eats the weak
it just is as its always been..aka dog eat dog world
and we like it that way as long as its not us..
and i'll/maynard watch until it is but at least i/maynard amits it
hes the stronger one for amit'n it..
while watching from 3 points of view)
1-watching the patient
2-watching on tv
3-walking thru the hallls watching tragedy
alive while what seemed at the time...whole world dies

[slamminsalmon]

sounds like a good music video. open it with lost keys, doing a long shot a nurse walking down the same hallway. im thinking of her feet in the shot, with a long dolly from behind. focus would be on the floor itself. something like a black and white checkerboard pattern. the whole doctor dialogue could show the three in a room. the doctors feet, the nurses feet, then the patients feet, dangling from exam table. then into vicarious.

[Enlightened One]

Eye on the TV
'cause tragedy thrills me
Whatever flavor it happens to be
Like:
"Killed by the husband" ...
"Drowned by the ocean" ...
"Shot by his own son" ...
"She used a poison in his tea,
Then (she) kissed him goodbye"
That's my kind of story
It's no fun til someone dies

(one eye on the tv the other on the patient that is sleep'n/or rest'n
we have all heard the say'n its all fun in games til someone gets hurt
then all eyes are on you as the blood flows)
-
Don't look at me like I am a monster
Frown out your one face, but with the other (you)
Stare like a junkie into the TV
Stare like a zombie while the mother holds her child,
Watches him die,
Hands to the sky cryin "why, oh why?"

(as he passed by rooms sees a mother w/her child
he/maynard throws up hands...asking why?
even as the mother looks at him like a monster for pry'n
one face frowns cause patient is hooked into iv's in front of tv junkie/zombie
the other face be'n unable to turn away
from the tragedy around him like a junkie/zombie himself

_

Cause I need to watch things die from a distance
But Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies
You all need it too - don't lie.
Why can't we just admit it?
Why can't we just admit it?
We won't give pause until the blood is flowin'

(when looking at handycap/sickly ppl
say to oneself.."glad that isnt me"
but we dont say it out loud even as feeling stronger ourselves)
_

Neither the brave nor bold
Nor brightest of stories told
We won't give pause until the blood is flowin'
I need to watch things die from a good safe distance
Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies
You all feel the same so why can't we just admit it?

(could be telling a brave story of survival brightest story ever told
when someone screams fire everyone goes running to the scene
we all feel releaved knowing its not someone we know
even better if its not us...as we watch from a safe distance)
_

Blood like rain fallin' down
Drum on grave and ground

(the more blood the more ppl watch
closer to death the patient the more ppl come)

_

Part vampire, part warrior,
Carnivore and voyeur
Stare at the transmittal.
Sing to the death rattle.
La, la, la, la, la, la, la-lie (x4)

(a movement causes him/maynard to rememeber the patient
whos pale as a vampire
yet fighting a good fight like a warrior
feels the voyeur for being caught pry'n
but still we lie never amit'n we're glad it isnt us)
-
Credulous at best
Your desire to believe in
Angels in the hearts of men.
pull your head on out (of) your hippie haze
And give a listen
Shouldn't have to say it all again

(they didnt come running to recue the victim of the accedent
outta the goodness of they'r hearts/hippie love and unity
""also the time/60's when handycap got more services"
but to watch carnage/gore to be lookie lue's
_

The universe is hostile
So impersonal
Devour to survive
So it is, so it's always been ...
We all feed on tragedy.
It's like blood to a vampire
Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies
Much better you than I.

(when two galaxies collide..one devours the other
its nothing personal...the stronger eats the weak
it just is as its always been..aka dog eat dog world
and we like it that way as long as its not us..
and i'll/maynard watch until it is but at least i/maynard amits it
hes the stronger one for amit'n it..
while watching from 3 points of view)
1-watching the patient
2-watching on tv
3-walking thru the hallls watching tragedy
alive while what seemed at the time...whole world dies

Way over thought and way over analyzed. This song is simply about the human need to see death and tragedy. Mostly how americans feed on it through the mass media outlets. Thats it. We feed on it and its much better someone else than me. I would explain more but its pointless. Just listen to the song and read through the lyrics again. Im not bashing your thoughts but they are not aimed at the true meaning of this song.

[Rolo]

Way over thought and way over analyzed. This song is simply about the human need to see death and tragedy. Mostly how americans feed on it through the mass media outlets. Thats it. We feed on it and its much better someone else than me. I would explain more but its pointless. Just listen to the song and read through the lyrics again. Im not bashing your thoughts but they are not aimed at the true meaning of this song.

I agree.

[0.618]

This song is simply about the human need to see death and tragedy. Mostly how americans feed on it through the mass media outlets. Thats it.

I think it is not just about seeing, we actually live because of someone else tragedy. I think just saying it is about "seeing death and tragedy" is not all of it.

The universe is hostile
So impersonal
Devour to survive
So it is, so it's always been ...
We all feed on tragedy.
It's like blood to a vampire
Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies
Much better you than I.


Way over thought and way over analyzed...

...This song is simply about...

..the true meaning of this song.


If your reply was supposed to falsify jenocide's interpretation, this is not the way to do it. There were not any argument why it was not close to "true meaning".

I say: "I think this candy tastes sweet".
You say: "That is not true, because I think it tastes bad".


Of course, one could wonder if there is any point to use term "true meaning" when talking about interpretations of this song..

[RayBourque777]

I like bunnies because they hop.

[Enlightened One]

I like bunnies because they hop.

Sometimes

[RayBourque777]

Except on Mondays and Thursday's, when it's snowing, the stars are aligned and if the moon is 7/8 full and something is on fire.

[Rolo]

Take that shit to the bin, people.

[Enlightened One]

Of course, one could wonder if there is any point to use term "true meaning" when talking about interpretations of this song..

You are right about the "true meaning" comment. I should have just stuck with "they are not aimed at the meaning of this song." It was a very poor choice of words. But I still stick to the rest of my statement.

[jenocide]

a different way to look at vicarious..thru others eyes..we cant all see the same thing when listening or we wouldnt be individuals..wouldnt need this opinion page..we would all just magically know..its meant to mean different things to each..there's no guide line say's this is what it should mean to all..i do realize its about feeding off tragedies thats a given..pretty much spelled that out for us...like my view better then the norm "human/americans need to feed off death and tragedy thru mass media" so baseline..if ur not bashing my thoughts then why tell me to listen again and again..your pissing on my back only to tell me its rain

[Enlightened One]

a different way to look at vicarious..thru others eyes..we cant all see the same thing when listening or we wouldnt be individuals..wouldnt need this opinion page..we would all just magically know..its meant to mean different things to each..there's no guide line say's this is what it should mean to all..i do realize its about feeding off tragedies thats a given..pretty much spelled that out for us...like my view better then the norm "human/americans need to feed off death and tragedy thru mass media" so baseline..if ur not bashing my thoughts then why tell me to listen again and again..your pissing on my back only to tell me its rain

You are correct. I am sorry for my ignorance in my past posts on this thread. I do not have the right, and it is not my place to say that your interpretation of this song is not aimed at the meaning of this song. Songs mean different things to all of us and we all have our own views of things and free thought is one of the things that makes us human and what we are. Your view of what this song could mean is very interesting, and considering the fact that you have spent quite some time in a hospital, it is unique. I myself was in a hospital for 17 days recently after a bad bike accident and I can see where your coming from. Again, I am sorry.

[okman]

You are correct. I am sorry for my ignorance in my past posts on this thread. I do not have the right, and it is not my place to say that your interpretation of this song is not aimed at the meaning of this song. Songs mean different things to all of us and we all have our own views of things and free thought is one of the things that makes us human and what we are. Your view of what this song could mean is very interesting, and considering the fact that you have spent quite some time in a hospital, it is unique. I myself was in a hospital for 17 days recently after a bad bike accident and I can see where your coming from. Again, I am sorry.

We shouldn't try to analyze every aspect of every song we love, just to fully enjoy it. Tool Is The epitamy of letting yourself "go", therefore take it as it comes, and bang your head a couple of times in the mean time.

[Fartons]

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