More on "Francisco" --- " de Goya" !! Finally the answer??

[desertone]

By speeding up the tempo and changing the pitch starting at 3:23 you can clearly hear an intake of breath followed by the word "Francisco".

Here is something else to throw into the mix. The artist Francisco de Goya is well known for his "dark" paintings. Of particular interest could be his work during 1821-1823 "The Great He-Goat or Witches Sabbath". The painting is currently in the Museo del Prado, Madrid. See the link below:
http://artchive.com/artchive/G/goya/great_he-goat.jpg.html

And also the following link on Francisco de Goya:
http://artchive.com/artchive/G/goya.html

What are the thoughts out there folks??

-Peace

[desertone]

Apparantly Francisco de Goya is well known for paintings that depict man's inhumanity to man as shown in his collection of 14 "black paintings" depicting hellish visions.

This seems to be a solid tie in with the previous song "Right in Two".

See the following link on Francisco:
http://artchive.com/artchive/G/goya.html

"Goya seems to have come to take it for granted that a human being with power or authority over another will abuse it to ruin the other to dismember, deprave, despoil, relentlessly, gratuitously. Maybe the scenes in The Disasters of War of the pointless butchery which the victors inflict on the vanquished tell us no more about Goya himself than that, like any humane and rational being, he loathed the excesses of war. "

-Peace

[remember_forget]

I thought it said Francisco, but that seemed a little weird.

[clone]

fock! Tool is calling me!! I AM THE CHOSEN ONE!!... hmm... now where did i put that pen?

[solidabyss]

fock! Tool is calling me!! I AM THE CHOSEN ONE!!... hmm... now where did i put that pen?
but you havnt even graduated fuckin high school

[win]

By speeding up the tempo and changing the pitch starting at 3:23 you can clearly hear an intake of breath followed by the word "Francisco".

Here is something else to throw into the mix. The artist Francisco de Goya is well known for his "dark" paintings. Of particular interest could be his work during 1821-1823 "The Great He-Goat or Witches Sabbath". The painting is currently in the Museo del Prado, Madrid. See the link below:
http://artchive.com/artchive/G/goya/great_he-goat.jpg.html

And also the following link on Francisco de Goya:
http://artchive.com/artchive/G/goya.html

What are the thoughts out there folks??

-Peace

i tink it makes thematic sense. as I noted in other threads I think the songs title is in conjuction with right in tow and in reference to our 46 chromosomes cut right in two (23). thematicly that means this song is a punctuation to right in two. It says we never live up to our harmonious potential, rather we embrace 'man's inhumanity to man' This seems to be the theme of almost the entire album starting with vicarious and it would certainly make sense if there wa sa reference to Fransico

[blafuckbla]

By speeding up the tempo and changing the pitch starting at 3:23 you can clearly hear an intake of breath followed by the word "Francisco".


lol, sure.

[desertone]

If anyone is interested in hearing the sound byte with the "Francisco" word altered from the original so it can be heard clearly email me at [email protected]

It is about 52k and in mp3 format. And if anyone has a website to post it for easier access feel free to do so.

-Peace

[M.Luther]

Apparantly Francisco de Goya is well known for paintings that depict man's inhumanity to man as shown in his collection of 14 "black paintings" depicting hellish visions.

This seems to be a solid tie in with the previous song "Right in Two".

See the following link on Francisco:
http://artchive.com/artchive/G/goya.html

"Goya seems to have come to take it for granted that a human being with power or authority over another will abuse it to ruin the other to dismember, deprave, despoil, relentlessly, gratuitously. Maybe the scenes in The Disasters of War of the pointless butchery which the victors inflict on the vanquished tell us no more about Goya himself than that, like any humane and rational being, he loathed the excesses of war. "

-Peace
he also painted this.

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/g/goya/goya_sardine.jpg

how did people get this crazy back then?

even a painting he did of the Spanish royal family is haunting.
http://www.artchive.com/artchive/g/goya/goya_family.jpg
notice the guy in the background left. who's face is just barely visible....that's MANERD!

[therandom]

people got that crazy cause of the plague.... duh.

[M.Luther]

thats not really what i meant, either way the plague happened 600 years earlier.

[Sasha]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Goya_-_Saturno_devorando_a_su_hijo.jpg
he also did this piece, which ties in with the meaning of the grudge. a band favorite? eh.

[MarcDrums]

i always thought it was "Assist ussss"

[whitewater]

Francesca. Latin name for 'free'.

Francisco. *smirk*